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What's more important when trying to timbre match??????

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Dan Steffen, May 9, 2002.

  1. Dan Steffen

    Dan Steffen Stunt Coordinator

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    What's more important when trying to timbre match? Right now I have (or soon to have) my front 3 diva speakers 6.1/c3. There is no way I can fit the r3 surround onto my wall so I was trying to find something to timbre match the divas. My question is what is more important, the tweeter or the woofer?
    I'm looking at atlantic tech 374 surrounds which I've been told would match well since they have silk dome tweeters. I really want to get dipoles for the side surrounds and I'm limited to ~8" in width to fit onto my wall. Has anyone heard this combo before? I realize that the real answer is to listen to many difference surrounds and see for yourself but I'm trying to narrow my choices down before listening.
    I have in ceiling speakers for rear surrounds that were here when we moved into the house and can switch out. How much difference does it make to get the rear surrounds to match to the side surrounds to the front speakers?
     
  2. David Guill

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    I have used the AT 374s, they sound excellent. It is not as important to timbre match the surrounds with the front speakers. panning back to front is not as critical as from front left to front right. the 374s can also be set in wall (partially) also. When setting the AT 374s up you must pay attention to which is the left speaker and which is the right and set them up accordingly. Then using an SPL meter balance all the speakers. You should find that the ATs will integrate well with the Divas.

    I use a set of the AT SR20 inwalls with the Definitive Technology BP2000 series. When balanced they sound terrific. Tonally I can not tell the difference between them.

    Dave
     
  3. Dan Steffen

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    Thanks for the response David. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Def Techs you have contain an aluminum tweeter (not sure about the other drivers). So from what you are saying the silk dome tweeter of the AT374 matches well with other non-silk dome tweeters? Do the other drivers have that much of an impact on timbre match?

    Part of my question is to determine if the ATs and the Divas are good matches, the other part of my question is what has a bigger impact on timbre match?
     
  4. John Kotches

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    Dan,

    What about using the Diva 2.1s as the surrounds?

    That might be a viable option to consider.

    Regards,
     
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  6. Dan Steffen

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  7. Dan Steffen

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    Phil thanks for the link. That has a lot of good info that I haven't seen before
     
  8. Richard_s

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    For HT I don't seem to notice that much that my surrounds do not timbre match to my mains I am sure if they did timbre match the system would sound even better. What I notice definitely is that when I am listening to Music in the DPL II Music mode I find that instrumentals in particular tend to sound ODD maybe even distorted due to the mixing of the surround sounds with the mains. I was able to get things pretty good by modifying the delay for the rear speakers for the DPLII Music mode but not as good as I would like. Other surround modes (DSP) may be affected also I just don't use them much to know but I use my DPL II quite a bit for music.
    YES Phil I just ordered a pair of N24 speakers for surrounds the BOSE model 100's are about as poor a timbre match for the N26's as I think one can get (except maybe for a PC speaker) and I am confidant that MY DPL II music will sound significantly improved. Oh and HT should be better too [​IMG]
     
  9. Phil Iturralde

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    Great Richard!!! Timbre-matched speakers is, ... glorious!!! [​IMG]
     
  10. Russell W

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    Dan,

    I have actually heard the Atlantic surrounds. Although I have not listened to them with the Diva speakers I believe this will be a really good alternative to the R3's. Your room configuration is going to make 2.1's challenging to place properly. I think you are on the right track. Truly if you were going to use a different speaker in your HT setup the surround channel would be the best place (only place) to use a different manufacturer. The Atlantic surrounds will make an excellent choice.

    Please call us if we can assist further we can explore some other possibilities as well.

    Russell Woolfolk

    AV123.com
     
  11. Dan Steffen

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    Thanks for your input Russell. Everyday I listen to my Divas I'm a little more amazed at the quality. I know its been said before that you hear things that you haven't heard before but it really is true with these speakers.
     

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