David Deeb
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Ugh and agreed. However, I'm not sure either of those were "beloved" to begin with.Ethan Riley said:
Ugh and agreed. However, I'm not sure either of those were "beloved" to begin with.Ethan Riley said:
I don't even want to get into this (especially since I'm not much of a fan of All In The Family) but AITF is not a bigoted show, it's a show about a bigot. There's a massive difference.jimmyjet said:...aitf, with all its bigotry displayed.
I think we have a different idea of what "displaying bigotry" means. Based on your post, I'm assuming that you consider any bigoted comment to be displaying bigotry. If you have that broad of a definition then you're right. I don't look at it that way though. For me, the show would have to endorse the comment to be displaying bigotry. In the case of All In The Family, Archie is shown to be an ignorant dope and the audience laughs at him because of his dumb comments.jimmyjet said:jimmyjet, on 14 May 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:
I don't even want to get into this (especially since I'm not much of a fan of All In The Family) but AITF is not a bigoted show, it's a show about a bigot. There's a massive difference.
hi travis,
i stand 100% by what i said. please re-read it. the show displays a bunch of bigotry.
In the original British "Til Death Do Us Part"--which was more about simply the humor of the crowded lower-class household and the generation-gap clash--Warren Mitchell was "Alf Garrett", and the humor was about the rant of the typical lower-class Brit-bigoted dad from Wapping: Foreigners, Europeans, East Indians, the Labour Party, Liverpool supporters, etc. (And even Carrol O'Connor didn't originally think the show's humor could translate.)TravisR said:I think we have a different idea of what "displaying bigotry" means. Based on your post, I'm assuming that you consider any bigoted comment to be displaying bigotry. If you have that broad of a definition then you're right. I don't look at it that way though. For me, the show would have to endorse the comment to be displaying bigotry. In the case of All In The Family, Archie is shown to be an ignorant dope and the audience laughs at him because of his dumb comments.
There was such a marked difference in "serious Smith" and "buffoon Smith." I love both ends of the show, serious and campy, but think of how great it could have been if it hadn't became "monster of the week" and "bumbling Smith" each episode.Ockeghem said:Ron,I really liked Dr. Smith in the first (b&w) season of Lost In Space. When he wasn't being a buffoon, he could be quite chilling, especially whenever the director(s) used some ECUs on him.
Beavis and Butthead.JMFabianoRPL said:I think it's time to reverse the question, and see who you think were "annoying" characters that you grew to love?
When I was a kid I didn't watch Good Times regularly, but I did like the J.J. character at the time.Brian Himes said:and Good Times (Except J.J. who was and always will be annoying).
I didn't mind Alan Alda in the first couple of seasons...but Hawkeye in general,and Alan Alda in particular, then the entire tone of the whole show began to annoy me.TravisR said:I like Hawkeye when there's a comedy episode of M*A*S*H but when Alan Alda wants to go for an Emmy, it can be rough.
I like her...but of course I prefer Rhoda!JoeDoakes said:Mary Richards. She's wasn't all that.