What is the deal with Ebay these days?

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  1. Mark Paquette

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    I've been selling stuff on Ebay for many years and have never had a problem. That all changed 2 weeks ago. I listed a DVD player and someone with 0 feedback that had just registered that day, swooped in at the last minute and way overbid on the player. He/She immediately sent me an email requesting that I ship the player to Nigeria for his son. I was born at night, but it wasn't last night and this smelled like a scam to me. So I did a quick Google search using Ebay and Nigeria and found tons of complaints linking to emails eerily similar to the one I received. I told this clown to get lost, filed a non-payment complaint with Ebay and requested the return of my listing fees. I received the fees back immediately because this scammer cancelled his Ebay account. I'm now in the process of re-listing the player. Fast forward to this week. I had an auction for a digital camera that ended almost identical to the DVD player. Someone with no feedback that had just registered that day way overbid and won the auction. This morning I receive an email from Caroline Herb telling me she'll pay $70 to ship an $80 camera to her fiance in Nigeria. She even was kind enough to send me a nicely designed fake Paypal email.

    Has this happened to anyone here? So what's the deal with Ebay these days? How can I sell my old stuff without this kind of thing happening.
     
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    Ebay seems to be getting more crap than they can handle. The final thing I bought off there was a scam (2 DVD-r of the old show You Can't do that on Televsion) bought about 2 years ago. AFter I did a "buy now" on the thing I paypaled my money very quickly (probably a mistake...should've waited until the end date of the listing). The day the bidding was dated to end I got a message from ebay telling me the item had been cancelled. There was no way to get my money back at the time so I waited for something in the mail. I got crap that didn't work (missing sound on Season 2). The seller told me to mail it back for replacement. He never sent the replacement. Ebay wouldn't help at all since it seems that cleared themselves of the mess when they cancelled the listing after I'd bought and paid, and before the ending date of the listing and some time had passed. Thanks ebay. [​IMG]

    That ended my relationship with them. It cost me about $22. I've since downloaded a working copy of the second season. I'll be happy to pay a little more to get a product that I know will work or I'll get it exchanged probably. Too many crappy people ready to take my money and not give me what they are listing. I guess bootleg stuff isn't the most reliable anyway. Many purchases have went okay. But I just don't trust the way ebay does things anymore. I think there are serious problems with their system that maybe weren't as much an issue when they started.

    As a comparison, along with a short list others I got dupped by a scammer on amazon.com's marketplace and amazon refunded 100% of my money. [​IMG]
     
  4. Chris Lockwood

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    Overseas + zero feedback = no sale from me
     
  5. JonZ

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    Whenever I sold something on ebay, I chose the US resident only option.

    I didnt want to have to deal with sending overseas.

    I havent bothered with ebay much for awhile now.
     
  6. JohnRice

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    Not sure I would put so much blame on ebay. I am amazed by the spoof emails I receive trying to get oney out of me one way or another. I mean, I know this stuff pretty well and still some of them cause me to stop and think for a while. Just got one "from ebay" the other day saying my credit card was about to expire. The only signs it was fake were that I know the expiration date they listed was wrong, but how many people know that right off the top of their heads, and I noticed the "date of notice" said 8/28/06 but it wasn't sent until 9/12/06.

    So many people pulling scams. It's amazing.
     
  7. Jay H

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    Doesn't just happen on ebay.... Lots of classified ads get answered by these spammers...

    Jay
     
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    One thing to remember: no company is going to ask such personal info via email. And if you need to check it then don't use the link given. Instead, go to the HOME site URL you trust and start there with questions about it.

    That phishing stuff is really getting people. But the above info would stop it.
     
  9. RichP

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    I block all 0 and lower feedback bidders from all of my auctions period. I'm not going to be a guinea pig, sorry.
     
  10. Jon Martin

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    I used to sell laserdiscs on Ebay. Was doing pretty well too, selling off most of my collection. But then, someone with a webtv account kept bidding, promising to send payment, and never doing it.

    He would do it over, and over, and over again. Each time the auction ended, he'd send an email saying "Hey, payment is in the mail. Thanks!"

    Ten days later, I'd contact him again. "Hey, sorry about that. It was sent back without a stamp. I mailed it out again"

    Ten days later, he stopped replying to my emails.

    This happened 3 or 4 times, wasting months of time, so I just gave up selling.

    As far as buying DVD-R's on Ebay, I don't think you came blame Ebay for that, as it is illegal to be selling them there.
     
  11. Paul_Fisher

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    You can block certain users from bidding on your ebay auctions.
     
  12. JohnRice

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    Yeah, I know. They are just getting better at it. It used to be fairly easy for someone with a little understanding to catch them in an instant, but some of them are getting pretty damn good at it. It's getting to where the ONLY indication is the fact there is a link instead of telling you to manually log into your account. Plus, I've looked at some of those links and have not been able to figure out how they were not directing you to the proper site.
     
  13. Jesse Skeen

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    I feel sorry for anyone in Nigeria who actually wants to buy something legitimately from outside the country but can't because the whole world thinks they're a scammer.
     
  14. Chris Lockwood

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    > That phishing stuff is really getting people. But the above info would stop it.

    It would also help if ebay would only send plain text emails that are much harder to pull stunts with.


    > I feel sorry for anyone in Nigeria who actually wants to buy something legitimately from outside the country but can't because the whole world thinks they're a scammer.

    Great- why don't you set up shop on ebay and sell to people in Nigeria?
     
  15. Jeff Ulmer

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    There is an easy way to check if mail is actually from eBay, since it will be in your eBay mailbox.

    Speaking of scams, I can't count the number of spams I get everyday for drugs (Cialis, Viagra etc.). Who in their right mind is going to order drugs from companies that can't even spell what they are supposedly selling?

    As for eBay and bogus bidders, it spoils it for legit buyers too. I won't bid on anything with a 0-5 feedback/new user bidding on it. Way too much shill bidding going on.
     
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    i think we all know he was trying to make a point, but you can always be counted on for the unhelpful one-liner.

    i've sold a couple computers overseas on ebay with success, but these were relatively osbcure items (alpha stations), so i'm not sure the usual scammers would look to bid on my items. i've sold maybe 100-150 books/CDs on amazon with no trouble at all. i dont think i'd even try to sell a book or cd on ebay, due to the higher level of scammers.

    CJ
     
  17. Dave_Brown

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    It's amazing how these scams originate from an area isn't smart enough to move out of the desert, but can run a poorly planned scam.

    As a non-ebay user, if I were to start, how would I make my first purchase? It seems that new bidders or 0 feedback are not to be trusted, so how would a new person have success with the service?
     
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    ive been a member for a while, before many of the scams popped up. i got my first few feedbacks buying dvds from people who had tons of positive feedback, in the thousands. a zero feedback bidder wasnt as bad as it can be today, and after the first few positives, not too many people are afraid anymore.

    CJ
     
  19. Mark Paquette

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    So how do I stop people with 0 feedback from bidding on my auctions? I looked in the options and I found where I can block people in certain countries from bidding, but that isn't going to do me any good. Each time I experienced an attempted scam, the bidder was from the US or Canada. They just wanted me to ship the item to Nigeria.
     
  20. Patrick Sun

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    State in you auction listings in large type that you will only ship to a US address (or also Canadian address).
     

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