What successful format, of any type, never had dedicated players? Is there one? It seems to me that if DVD-A is to survive it needs dedicated audio players like you can get for SACD. I'm not trying to pic a fight about which hi-rez format sounds better. I like DVD-A enough to have bought atleast 15 discs. If you don't know, I really like SACD, now you know. I'd like to see DVD-A succeed too but how? It seems like it has to rise up above an add-on feature on video players...?