What cable: Belden, Canare, Other? For DIY component video.

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  1. David A. Frattaroli

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    I want to make my own component video to compare the difference between them and my current MIT component video cable. What kinds of cable can I use for this and what model?
    I know I can use Canare V3-5CFB but are there others?
    Thanks.
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    Cable Design Technologies (CDT) has multiple divisions that make lots of cable products. Have not looked at all of them but the main website with links to all of them is: www.cdtc.com.
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    Belden: 89259 (must be ordered) 1506a (can be gotten at RS)
    Mouser Electronics, Anxiter, Newark.. sell Belden cable.
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    Thank you fellas.
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    David,
    I have 3 individual 3 meter runs of Belden 1505A with Canare RCA's that I am using for component video cables. If I remember correctly, the 1506A sold at Rat Shack is almost $1/ft whereas the 1505A is only around $.30/ft from Have Inc. The only difference is the 1506A is plenum-rated. A friend built me two sets of these component cables with techflex on them along with a single 2 meter digital cable also using the 1505A cable. The whole set cost me a little over $70! I just have the component cables tied together with black wire ties about 8" from each end. They work very well with my Elite DV-37 and 510! The other set will be for my Dish6000 receiver whenever I get a working unit. The first was DOA!
    I hope this helps!
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    Thanks Brian. That does help. Am I to understand that any RG6 750hm cable can be terminated with RCA plugs and used for component video?
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    David,
    The 1505A and 1506A Belden cable is actually RG59. But I'd think any quality shielded cable that's rated at 75ohms could be terminated with quality true 75ohm RCA's like Canare makes and used for component video or digital audio or even subwoofer interconnects. That's what I'm doing and don't notice any adverse effects.
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    Try Jon Risch's site:
    http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/jon_risch/index.htm
    Also, check out the audioasylum.com -- quite an active DIY cable section.
    I'm strongly thinking about rewiring with DIY cable, and have been closely following the forums...
    The consensus seems to be that Belden 89259 is the cable for analog, and 1506A is somewhat better for digital/video cables--but that 89259 will work in a pinch...
    Also check out:
    http://www.enjoythemusic.com/etmcable.htm
    http://www.homegrownaudio.com
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    Thanks alot for all the great links.
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    I was a big advocate of RG6-based home-brew component video and SPDIF cables, but I'm starting to second guess this approach.
    I've run across two devices so far that have their connectors broken (solder) due to the strain that these non-flexible cables are applying.
    Just something to watch out for, I guess.
     
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    Good point. In my case though, I'll be using solderless crimp-type connectors.
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    If you are going to do this, try:
    Belden (RG6) 1694A - $0.21/ft with $7.5 cut charge
    Canare RCAP-C53 - $2.75 each
    Both could be purchase at HaveInc.
    Best combination ($ and performance) that I could come up with during my many hours of research. Let me know how this work out for you.
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    Mike, you suggest this combination for component video cables?
    Have you tried Canare V3-3CFB? It's expensive. $2/ft, but thats a 3 channel cable.
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    I checked the spec. for 3V-3CFB and it appears to be a RG59 which does not compare to the superior 1694A (RG6). For $2/ft, I don't think there is any question when 1694A is only $0.21/ft X 3channels = $0.63/ft. I think the added cost comes from putting the three cables into one (No additional performance here). I could go with nice cable ties for the extra $$$.
    As for performance, I think the 1694A is comparable to the 3V-5CFB (RG6) which I wouldn't even going to ask for the price (~$4/ft???).
    Go with the 1694A and your wallet will thank you. Good luck!!
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    BTW, one for one 1694A is a bit better than V3-5CFB as far as the spec. go but not much.
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    I'm sorry about the repeated posts.
    The combo that I suggested is used through out my HT.
    All Video Interconnect - Component & Composit
    All Audio Interconnect(except for speaker wires)-Analog (Includes Subs) & Digital.
    As you can see, this combo is used all over the place. In time, I'm going try it for speaker wires.
    Check out my HT site, I think my equipments are above average:
    http://hometown.aol.com/miketc168/index.html
    Have fun.
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    Mike, as for the connectors:
    Do you mean Canare RCAP-C53 or RCAP-C5F?
    Thanks for all your help.
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    Also, Mike, do you find that the RG6 is stiff? I've heard that it isn't as flexible as the RG59.
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    Per Canare Catalog:
    1694A uses the RCAP-C53 connector and
    the individual V3-5CFB uses the RCAP-5F connector.
    The reason is that 1694A has a larger O.D. (.275" verse .256"). I didn't go into actual details of why the 1694A is thicker but I believe it is due to its heavier shield(s)and dielectric.
    Of course the RG6 is stiffer than RG59 because its'a heavier cable, but not by much. If you have cable TV, check the incoming coaxial line or cable company provided cables (Usually RG6) for the stiffness because all RG6 is pretty close in its "bending" characteristics. You could compare the stiffness with most cheap video (F connector cables) interconnects that comes with your sub $100 VCR (RG59). I would not worry about the stiffness because you can always work around it.
    Go with it and you can thank me later.
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    I use Canare LV-77S stranded. I bought 50 feet of Red, Green, And blue. The RCA and BNC connectors use the same crimp dies and the stranded is ultra flexible.
    I have a G11 D-ILA that uses BNC's and a Dish 6000 that uses RCA's.
    Works Great!
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