Chelsearicky

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People here spend their time online reading about films. We are simply not an indicative sample of the wider public conciseness. They are going to need to reach a much wider audience than just us, and those people don't know the film exists yet because it hasn't been marketed yet.



Is this a serious question? Because I can absolutely see a scenario in which case younger audiences wouldn't pay attention to a remake of an antiquated title from 59 years ago. I'm not saying that I agree with that view, but there are young audiences who might. When I was in drama class in high school, which was an elective, I was the only person in the entire class who had ever heard of The Sound of Music. The textbook mentioned Julie Andrews, and when asked by a student who she was, the only movie that the teacher cited that caused any recognition at all was Shrek 2, because she was the voice of Fiona's mother. Not Mary Poppins. Not The Sound of Music. Shrek 2. My high school experience does not reflect the entirety of young audiences, but it does reflect some of them, and their awareness of famous musical films was sorely lacking.



Not right now, it isn't.



Well, a lot of audiences in the younger generation have and it was obviously Disney's intention to use him as part of the marketing outreach. The Fault in Our Stars, Baby Driver, etc.



Why? Personal taste is personal taste and has nothing to do with relevancy, or how many other people like the same thing. I love musicals, including WSS, but there are musicals that I don't like. A fan of the genre is not required to be a fan of every single thing in the genre. if @Malcolm R doesn't like West Side Story, that just comes down to his preferences.
I think it's going to be a difficult sell to modern audiences. Singing, dancing street gangs and your biggest cast name is Ansel Elgort. I enjoy musicals, but I've never been able to work up much interest for any version of WSS.

Spielberg with Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep in The Post could only swing about $80 million domestic. I'm not sure this will reach that level, and the budget for this is listed at $100 million.
I think it's going to be a difficult sell to modern audiences. Singing, dancing street gangs and your biggest cast name is Ansel Elgort. I enjoy musicals, but I've never been able to work up much interest for any version of WSS.

Spielberg with Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep in The Post could only swing about $80 million domestic. I'm not sure this will reach that level, and the budget for this is listed at $100 million.
 

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I sincerely doubt Disney will be using Ansel Elgort as part of its marketing outreach for 'WSS'. The sexual assault accusations have not gone away..they are merely in temporary abeyance. As soon as an opening date is announced and the trailer hits theaters, expect this issue to re-emerge with a vengeance , and the cancel crowd to pounce.
 

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As soon as an opening date is announced
You mean, two days ago when the opening date was announced as December 10?

I'm not going to sit here and deny that the allegations are an issue that the marketing team will need to work around. That's why I brought them up in this thread in the first place when they surfaced. But I don't see how they can not have him in the marketing.

He is playing Tony. He is one of the two leads and is in pretty much the whole movie. The only way to get rid of his influence on the film would be to reshoot pretty much the entire thing, which would be neither practical nor cheap. It's not like taking Kevin Spacey out of All the Money in the World because that character was a supporting role in the first place.

The press around the allegations have simmered down of late. His accuser deleted her Twitter account and has not (yet) pursued actual legal action. If these accusations do become major news again, that is certainly a problem for the film. But if people are going to boycott the film over them, then the entire thing is DOA anyway regardless of how it is or is not marketed.

Allegations are a weird thing. Sometimes, bad behavior can ruin a career and sometimes not. There's vide of Ezra Miller putting his hands on a woman's throat, but Warner Bros. is keeping him in both Fantastic Beasts 3 and The Flash movie. So, you never know.
 
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You mean, two days ago when the opening date was announced as December 10?

I'm not going to sit here and deny that the allegations are an issue that the marketing team will need to work around. That's why I brought them up in this thread in the first place when they surfaced. But I don't see how they can not have him in the marketing.

He is playing Tony. He is one of the two leads and is in pretty much the whole movie. The only way to get rid of his influence on the film would be to reshoot pretty much the entire thing, which would be neither practical nor cheap. It's not like taking Kevin Spacey out of All the Money in the World because that character was a supporting role in the first place.

The press around the allegations have simmered down of late. His accuser deleted her Twitter account and has not (yet) pursued actual legal action. If these accusations do become major news again, that is certainly a problem for the film. But if people are going to boycott the film over them, then the entire thing is DOA anyway regardless of how it is or is not marketed.

Allegations are a weird thing. Sometimes, bad behavior can ruin a career and sometimes not. There's vide of Ezra Miller putting his hands on a woman's throat, but Warner Bros. is keeping him in both Fantastic Beasts 3 and The Flash movie. So, you never know.
These accusations will indeed become major news again even if the accuser herself remains in the background. Count on it.
 

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These accusations will indeed become major news again even if the accuser herself remains in the background. Count on it.
I think I’m pretty up to date with movie related news and I don’t recall these accusations. I doubt they will become major news again.
 

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I think I’m pretty up to date with movie related news and I don’t recall these accusations. I doubt they will become major news again.
Yeah, never say never but that allegation seems like the type of thing I'll see a few random people mention again on Twitter but unless more information or accusations come out, it won't gain traction. I didn't see much about it when it first came out so that's another reason I don't expect it to really resurface in another 15 months either.

Just so no one gets pissed at me, I'm not saying that's good or bad, I'm only saying what I expect to see happen as the situation currently stands.
 

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I don’t recall these accusations.
If you would like to know what we are talking about, you can go back a bit in this thread. I first posted about the allegations on June 19 in post #519 on page 31. There was a bit of discussion around them at that time. Elgort responded to them by saying that he had a brief relationship with this person which was entirely consensual. The accuser deleted her Twitter account, which was the venue in which she made her accusation, and the press coverage around them just kind of disappeared. If he did do something wrong, he should answer for that. But there is a lot we don't know about the situation, and the accuser has not yet pursued legal recourse as far as has been reported to the public.

While it is entirely possible that they could resurface, it is equally possible that they could not, especially since the film is now well over a year away from being released.
 

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