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Weekly RoundUp 2-26-2019

Discussion in 'Bargains and Deals' started by Mike Frezon, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. Message #21 of 38 Feb 26, 2019
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    Jake Lipson

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    I don't know why I bother trying to get Best Buy steelbooks.

    I haven't tried this for a long time. The last one I tried for was Beauty and the Beast in 2017. But the combination of The Little Mermaid being, well, The Little Mermaid, and the fact that I think the artwork for the standard release is awful, made me want to try for it.

    I knew I wouldn't be able to get in the store at 10am. So I called them right when they opened to ask for them to hold one for me. The guy said they don't do that, even though I've had items held at multiple stores before (admittedly not recently, but it's not an uncommon thing to do.) He did, however, consent to tell me how many copies they had in stock, even though he wouldn't hold one for me.

    The number was two. Two!

    Seriously, why would Best Buy bother having a deal with Disney to give them exclusive rights to a steelbook if they're not even going to attempt to stock a reasonable number of copies? That's barely making it available and borders on false advertising.

    I'll end up with the basic release, which is okay. It's [edit for clarification: the steelbook] cool packaging, but it's only packaging. However, the entire business model around getting exclusives and then not having sufficient copies available of the exclusive doesn't make sense to me. It almost makes me want to go to another store other than Best Buy specifically to not give them this sale.
     
  2. Robert Crawford

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    Jake,

    You could have ordered on line and chose store pick up which I do quite often. They'll hold your copy for about 5-7 days.
     
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  3. Jake Lipson

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    Thanks. I've tried that before but for some reason it has not worked with my local store in the past. I have no idea why.
     
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    Perhaps, they didn't have that particular title in-stock. I always try that option until it's not available to me as some titles never become in-stock items.
     
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    Jake: I sympathize and this is what led me to giving up on any and all retailer exclusives. It was more of a job than anything else to find the release; I was too invested in the chase without caring about the end product. I abandoned the search even on releases like TLM.
     
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    By the way, I hate exclusives and steelbooks as I think the retailers and studios are taking advantage of us as consumers.
     
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  7. Message #27 of 38 Feb 26, 2019
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    Jake Lipson

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    Yeah, I'm right there with you typically. It's just that the cover art for the regular edition is so lame, and the cover art for the steelbook is so gorgeous, that I thought this one could be an exception if I was able to get ahold of one.

    But it is just packaging after all.

    After I settled for the regular edition of the live-action Beauty and the Beast when the steelbook was sold out, that ended up working out for me in the end. I was able to get the artwork autographed by a cast member at a local tour stop they did a year or so later, which would've been much harder with the steelbook. Maybe if I can't get The Little Mermaid steelbook, a cast member will make their way out here for some reason in 2020? ;) I'd take that trade.
     
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    Jake, I've got a steelbook copy in my cart right now. It's $38 out the door. If you want it please PM me and I'll be happy to pick it up and drop it in the mail to you.

    Along with that Blu-ray copy of Bohemian Rhapsody...(seriously) ;)
     
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    Got an email from Amazon tonight.

    It looks like Stand-In has been delayed for about a month (estimated delivery March 20th to April 10th)

    I don't know if other retailers have the same issue.
     
  10. Message #30 of 38 Feb 26, 2019
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    Jake Lipson

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    In regards to the issue I raised today with The Little Mermaid steelbook: thanks @Robert Crawford for your suggestion of the store pickup option. Thanks @Jason_V for your sympathy. Normally, I am right there with you. And thanks especially to Doug (for some reason, the system isn't letting me tag you) for offering to send it to me.

    It turns out that I found a store an hour or so away from here with a single copy left, and online ordering with store pickup did work for that store. So I got it. When I went to the customer service desk to pick it up, even the guy who pulled it out of the back said, "This is one of the most sought-after items right now."

    This is a triple dip for me (counting the Platinum Edition DVD, Diamond Blu-ray and now this Signature Collection edition), but The Little Mermaid is one of my very favorite titles and one of the few for which I am a sucker to upgrade for any new transfer or bonus features at all.

    This purchase also makes The Little Mermaid my first 4K title. My family doesn't plan to go 4K anytime soon (I am the only one in my family who would even care), so I don't expect to start future-proofing on a whole ton of 4K titles. But since this is one of my all-time favorites, it's nice to know I do have it just in case, especially since Disney probably will pull this release out of print in the future. In terms of discs I don't have a use for, having the 4K just in case is better than having a third DVD copy (which would have been included if I had gone for the standard Blu-ray.)

    I also saw the steelbook for Ralph Breaks the Internet there -- they had at least a couple of those left -- but didn't get it for a couple reasons. First of all, I actually think the artwork on the standard edition of Ralph looks good, which is more than I can say for The Little Mermaid. And also, since I have the first Ralph in standard keepcase packaging, it wouldn't be uniform on the shelf if I had one keepcase and one steelbook. I love my Finding Dory steelbook very much, but it's strange placed next to Finding Nemo in a keepcase. So I wasn't really inclined to repeat that. So I went with the standard Blu-ray (not 4K) of Ralph.

    Best Buy had this (Ralph Breaks the Internet Blu+DVD) marked at $24.99. I can confirm this despite Mike not having a Best Buy flyer because I saw the price while I went in to pick up The Little Mermaid. So I went to Target for that one, which was a few minutes away from Best Buy and was cheaper. (Thanks @Mike Frezon for the grid -- knowing Target's $22.99 price from reading the grid saved me money, as I would likely have gotten both from Best Buy if I hadn't known Target's was less.)

    Thanks again, everyone! It's situations like this that make me extra glad to be part of the HTF community.
     
  11. Jake Lipson

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    I was surprised to find when I opened the steelbook that there is artwork on both the 4K disc and the standard Blu-ray disc. Other people who have gotten the 4K edition around the internet have said that the Blu-ray is just Disney's standard blue disc with no artwork. If that's the case, then Disney must actually have pressed a two separate versions of the disc, one with artwork and one without. But I've got it, and mine has Ursula and Sebastian on the face of the 1080p Blu, which was a real surprise to me.

    Has anybody else gotten their 4K copies yet? If so, what does the included Blu-ray look like for you?
     
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    I picked up Little Mermaid, Ralph Breaks the Internet and Captain America (all 4k) last night and, honestly, I didn't think to look. I'll look tonight and report back unless someone else gets to it before me.

    I normally wouldn't pick up new 4k's at release week prices, but I had a $50 prepaid debit card for buying contacts in December, so I paid a total of $50 for the three titles at Best Buy. There were a few steelbooks for all three releases on the shelf last night.
     
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    Not TLM related, but my 4K copy of Ralph Breaks the Internet has color artwork on the 4K disc, and the standard Disney baby blue on the Blu-ray.
     
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    The Artwork on BBY Exclusives only is pretty common. I'm not sure why they print different editions, but it's one more perk for those who care about such things to pick up the Premium priced editions. Like pre film logos and post film credit designations it's certainly not hurting anything for it to be there, but I would never have thought it was anything to notice until folks starting talking about such things -- or those little blue stickers on Criterion covers that some folks seem to go nuts over to the point of removing them from items in-store to take home and put on their edition that was missing them.
     
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    That's weird. It's not a perk they're promoting (remember when The Little Mermaid and the other initial Limited Issue DVD releases promoted "full-color character artwork on disc" as a bonus feature? :laugh:) and I was pretty surprised when I opened the case up and saw it. So I'm not sure what the benefit is to Disney to press another disc with artwork.

    As an aside: Because I don't actually have a 4K player right now, I took the 4K disc out of my steelbook and put it in the case for the Diamond Edition. Then I took the original Blu-ray (which I have to retain for its dropped extras) and put it in the steelbook. So both of my Blu-ray copies which I can actually play right now are in one case, which is convenient in case I want to watch extras on the old disc after watching the movie. The keepcase which originally housed the old Blu-ray now houses both the 4K disc and the DVD -- neither of which I will use in the immediate future -- and I put it away in another room where I store some of the other older editions of things that I don't use often anymore. If I ever do go 4K, then the 4K disc would become my primary copy that I use for watching the movie, so it would earn its way back into the steelbook, but for right now it makes sense to me to have the two copies I can use in the same case. So I've got Ursula and Sebastian on the 2019 Blu-ray and the plain 2013 Blu facing me when I open the steelbook.

    Incidentally, the steelbook for Ralph Breaks the Internet does not seem to be as popular as the one for The Little Mermaid, or at least it's not going as quickly. My store (which wasn't working for store pickup yesterday when I wanted Mermaid) is now showing store pickup as an option for the steelbook of Ralph. According to Best Buy's website, the closest store to me that has The Little Mermaid in stock now is 206.8 miles away.
     
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    I think it's partially more popular and definitely much smaller stocks leading to some panic buying and speculator issues compared to Ralph. I think Tyrok posted some numbers saying most stores were sent at least 4-5X more Ralph than TLM
     
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    Which raises the question of why they even bother doing it if they are going to make so few copies available. They paid Paige O'Hara to paint the cover, which she mentions in one of the bonus features on the disc. I mean, Disney can obviously afford to pay her, but still, that's a lot of effort on her part which isn't going to be enjoyed by very many people, relatively speaking, versus the basic edition. I'm not saying the steelbook actually needs to be as widespread as the regular release, but it does seem puzzling to create an exclusive that they aren't going to stock in reasonable numbers. I mean, I'm happy I got one this time, but the whole thing is weird to me.

    If the purpose of the exclusives is to get people to go to Best Buy to buy the movie, I don't see how it helps Best Buy to not have the thing that people are supposed to come there to buy. Maybe they think that when people come in looking for the steelbook and don't find it, they'll still get the regular version and then Best Buy would get that sale. But if you do that enough times, people are going to start to get annoyed like @Jason_V and myself, and then you won't be able to use the steelbook to lure them into the store. So once that happens, Best Buy is out of luck.

    The Little Mermaid was an exception where I was willing to work for it, but I'm usually not. Last week, I thought that Best Buy's steelbook of A Star is Born looked cool. But I also thought, "It's not important enough to me to make the effort to find one," so I just ordered the regular edition from Amazon. Consequently, Best Buy didn't get my sale on that at all.

    But they keep doing this, so obviously it keeps working out for them. What do I know?

    Since we've already been talking about the steelbook here, for those interested, here is a video Disney put up on YouTube earlier this week featuring Paige O'Hara talking about painting the cover:

     
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    I saw four LM steelbooks at my store the other day. If you're looking for them in-store, be sure to look around as they are sometimes spread around in different places. At my store, copies of LM appeared in the new releases section, as part of a Disney cardboard display standee with Ralph, and in the Disney catalog section. Ralph was in a couple more locations in addition to those.
     
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