Those who have owned this receiver (including myself) will tell you that it was possibly the best sounding receiver receiver ever made...ever. While everyone was going "ga-ga" over the Denon 5700, 777ES receiver owners knew that they had something that was even more special. True, the Denon 5700 had more features, but as any 777ES owner will tell you, the 777ES receiver bested it in sheer sound quality reproduction in both surround and stereo listening. Modeled after the outstanding Sony separates combo, it was that good and better. It weighed nearly 70lbs. for goodness sake!!!! Some may not want to give Sony any credit for producing such an outstanding unit because it was made by the same Sony that produces equiptment for the masses, and you'll probably find some reason to take offense, but the 777ES wasn't the receiver of the year for 2000 in Europe for nothing. And even today, it takes alot of searching to find one that someone is willing to sell. Sony discontinued the 777ES because it was seriously cutting into the sales of their separates combo. The reason for this topic is that Sony either has been unwilling, or either unable to build a flagship receiver that was comparable to the 777ES in sound quality and build quality. First there was the STR-V series in the ES lines that they claimed were worthy follow ups, but didn't live up to the likes of the 777ES. Now there is the next generation called the DA3 and 5ES receivers, and granted we haven't listened to them yet, spec-wise they still don't compare to the ES receivers of 2 generations ago. So was the overachieving flagship 777ES of nearly 2 years ago just a fluke? A mistake? Or have they become more cautious about competing products in the same line?