Warner Bros and DTS

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  1. Chad Ferguson

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    This is not another I hate Warner Brothers topic! I personally think they do a great job, I don't mind the snappers and they some of the best transfers to date! On with the show:

    Warner onced released a batch of beautiful DTS films but they did not sell that well. I have a theory for this. But the DTS on the package! I think there was a very small DTS sign at the bottom of the back. Fox proudly shows the DTS sign and those sell! Dreamworks and Universal both have a nice listing of soundtracks on the back and the DTS sign is clearly stated. I think when you do a DTS track for a movie you should celebrate it somehow on the casing, cause DTS sells!!

    P.S. Wish you would have kept with the full bit rate DTS for American Outlaws. Also, whatever happened to the Any Given Sunday DTS that was mentioned a long time ago in a chat?

    Thank you
     
  2. Dan Hitchman

    Dan Hitchman Cinematographer

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    Pick better movie titles and use DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 and you'll see larger numbers sold.

    Dan
     
  3. Chad Ferguson

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    I think that the average consumer that has knowledge of DTS might not have knowledge or the technology of DTS ES. If the film has it, great but if not, everything will still work out fine. It's not like Warner released titles that didn't use DTS well.
     
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    American Outlaws DTS might not be due to Warner's doing, but it might be something that Castle Rock wanted.

    Either way, thank whoever made it an option. Hopefully WB/CR will do DTS more often.
     
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    I bet that if they released The Matrix as a full bitrate dts title that it would sell.
     
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    I would have to agree with my buddy Dan. It seems like they are not picking titles that will really sell. The Lethal Weapon Series was not a bad choice. i think that Donner had something to do with that. I'm not sure, but that just what I think. I think that if WB chooses more up-to-date films such as "The Matrix", or "Swordfish", movies that were mixed digitally; WB would sell dts titles. Warner, just start releasing titles with both dd/dts! Problem solved.

    BTW, did anyone look at the fact that "American Outlaws" dvd has audio dropout?
     
  7. Chad Ferguson

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    Twister? Is this not a prime candidate for DTS? I do believe though, that if Matrix was rereleased in DTS and nothing else it would sell like nuts. As for the audio dropout, that stuff happens, reissues fix it, Warner isn't the only company that does this. Please! Warner! More DTS and celebrate the DTS on the front or the back, it sells!!!
     
  8. Dan Hitchman

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    How about DTS 24/96 encoding while we're at it from 24 bit/96 kHz digital masters??

    Dan
     
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    I would love to see The Matrix re-issued in DTS. That would be amazing! I wish more studios would support DTS.
     
  10. Chad Ferguson

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    How much does it hurt a Studio if they release two copies? Like Saving Private Ryan or the old DTS titles. I mean, they do it for Full Screen and Widescreen. I think Warner should start more with the 2 disc sets. Have a Full bit Rate DTS and DD and awesome picture quality, and then all those extras on Disc 2. Basically, what people want the Superbit series too do. Please Warner!!
     
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    WB should do DTS only for titles that would really benifit from it.
    A movie such as Wizard of Oz has a great 5.1 DD track, but probably wouldn't sound much better in DTS.
    On the other hand, Superman: TM would probably benifit greatly from a DTS track (since one was made for the theatrical re-release.)
    DTS isn't important enough for me to buy a title just because it has it, but I could care less if DTS remixes were done for older films.
    DTS is best for films that have the sound already in 20-something track format.
     
  12. Dan Hitchman

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    Patrick,

    You miss my point. The initial Warner Brothers movies picked with DTS tracks were not ones that would sell like hot cakes. The Matrix with a full bitrate DTS track would sell much better IMHO than Interview With the Vampire, as an example.

    Warner seems like it really didn't care as long as they met their contractual obligations. They set up the test run to fail so they could say, "see, they didn't sell well so no more DTS from us."

    Dan
     
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    How was Warners choice in DTS titles bad? Twister is a great sounding movie! Perhaps the choice of DTS should not go to witch titles we believe should get them(I think all titles[​IMG] ) The Director or the people involved should pick.
     
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    Chad:

     
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