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If I remember right, the DVD release only used one end credits segment for the entire season meaning that voice actors and writers weren't getting properly credited for their respective episodes because the same one kept being used over and over.
So they did the same thing as their Jonny Quest DVDs?
 

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If I remember right, the DVD release only used one end credits segment for the entire season meaning that voice actors and writers weren't getting properly credited for their respective episodes because the same one kept being used over and over.
I'm surprised the lawyers let that slide. I remember Earl Kress saying lawyers made them split each Wacky Races show into two separate cartoons, each with its own show opening and closing. Maybe because it was marketed as having "34" episodes when there were really only 17 half-hours.
 

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So they did the same thing as their Jonny Quest DVDs?
Right... on the original DVD release of the O-R Jonny Quest, most of the episodes use the closing credits from episode 4 ("Pursuit of the Po-Ho," the last episode of the series to feature John Stephenson as the voice of Dr. Quest), except for episode 9 ("Double Danger"), which likewise also uses the wrong end credits, in that case, from episode 3 ("The Curse of Anubis").

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Am I missing something -- I don't see a release date for this.

Reading this announcement prompted me to pull out the original Jetsons DVD set. I've been watching several of the episodes. I had forgotten how much I enjoyed this show watching it on Saturday mornings (and later in syndication). I would actually rank it among my favorite cartoon shows.

I am somewhat annoyed at the 1980s title cards added to the episodes, but I'm a little ambivalent about it. I can understand why they did it -- the writers of each episode are properly (?) credited, for one thing. Each show has the same closing, just from one episode -- I honestly don't remember if that was the case on the Saturday morning reruns or not.

After a quick check of the episodes on the DVD set, am I correct that all but "A Date With Jet Screamer" include the laugh tracks? That was there originally, right?
 

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I haven't seen the 80's episodes in many years. Now I'm wondering if they were as well done as I had thought. I'll have to revisit them and see for myself someday on DVD or hopefully Blu-Ray.

The Orbitty hate for example isn't something I was ever aware of. The way I remember it, Orbitty barely had a presence. But you guys are making it sound like he/she/it (Do they ever say?) was a big part of the revival and that the character wasn't well received by some (Sounds like The Great Gazoo from the last season of The Flintstones).
That was nothing compared to the after-the-fact hate-cult for Scrappy-Doo in the early days of the Internet.

I was a kid during the Jetsons reboot years; I barely remembered Orbitty at all except that he wasn't in the 1990 movie. Nobody noticed because that was overshadowed by Janet Waldo getting pushed out for Tiffany when they moved heaven and earth to get George O'Hanlon and Mel Blanc right before they died (they missed Daws Butler by that much making Elroy's replacement necessary). Why couldn't they just let Tiffany have the songs and let Janet do the speaking voice, other than the Billboard charts overruling common sense? Disney would go on to do the same thing with Jasmine, Simba, Pocahontas, et al by having vocal doubles for the songs Marni Nixon-style. In this case, I blame Universal and not H-B; they retained Janet for the two TV-movies they made before the theatrical film without Universal's involvement. Both studios were being sold again around that time.

As for the difference in quality, part of that is because the original ABC series was done in prime time when they were still at Screen Gems, but the later years were in daytime syndication when Taft Broadcasting still owned them. It was then that they migrated to Saturday morning and their output got more child-centric; even when they got Tom and Jerry back in the 1970s after a decade with Gene Deitch and Chuck Jones, their new adventures were bowdlerized beyond belief. Considering The Jetsons had only one season originally, it's amazing how long they were in reruns when The Flintstones ran six years originally and then got reboot after reboot after reboot. It was only a matter of time before The Jetsons came back. They tried to reboot it in the 1970s, but the networks passed that up; H-B turned it into Partridge Family 2200 AD and only then did CBS want it. But was its reboot any more disappointing than the Comedy Central Futurama reboot? Or the Netflix Arrested Development? Perhaps you really can't go home again.
 
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Why couldn't they just let Tiffany have the songs and let Janet do the speaking voice, other than the Billboard charts overruling common sense?
This was the beginning of the practice of having “names” do voices in animated features, rather than trained voice actors. It’s a real shame.

Considering The Jetsons had only one season originally, it's amazing how long they were in reruns when The Flintstones ran six years originally and then got reboot after reboot after reboot.
“The Jetsons” was our “Honeymooners”, which only had 39 episodes available for the longest time. We watched those same 24 episodes of “The Jetsons” over and over again, and it didn’t seem to matter. There was something special about the series that made it rewatchable despite the relatively small number of episodes.
 

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This was the beginning of the practice of having “names” do voices in animated features, rather than trained voice actors. It’s a real shame.
I don't like that practice at all. It's gimmicky and probably just intended to bring in more moviegoers. I have noticed that often they are not credited as voice artists, they are listed as "cast" as if they themselves are actually in the movie, and often character designs seem to be based on the voice actors themselves.

But there are numerous other things about movies these days that turn me off. 90% of them being remakes, "reboots" and sequels, just for starters. Lazy bums.


“The Jetsons” was our “Honeymooners”, which only had 39 episodes available for the longest time. We watched those same 24 episodes of “The Jetsons” over and over again, and it didn’t seem to matter. There was something special about the series that made it rewatchable despite the relatively small number of episodes.
I concur. When I first used to see it, it only aired once a week on Saturday mornings, so that probably helped (versus weekdays where they would go through the episodes much faster).

I also recall that during the years when it was on Saturday mornings on NBC in the 1970s, WGN-Channel 9 in Chicago ran it for a time, also on Saturday mornings only. (I don't know if the syndicated runs overlapped the network runs.) Later WFLD-Channel 32 picked it up and they initially only showed it on Sunday mornings.

Later WFLD did air it on weekdays, but I remember one summer when the Jetsons ran weekdays for a month, then they switched to Underdog. (Normally their summer lineups were pretty stable. At first I thought maybe their rights had expired, but I think they ran it the next summer as well. I bet it was so they didn't repeat them too much.)
 

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In Boston, we did have an independent, WSBK, that occasionally ran the original 24 episodes on weekdays or Sundays at the same time that NBC was airing it on Saturday mornings.
 

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I just received an email from Amazon with an updated delivery date. It moved from November 1st to October 7th. Why am I not surprised that a title from Warner Archive is "delayed" from Amazon?

In all honesty I'd not payed much attention to the release date and now see that it was Sept. 10th. I've missed a few opportunities to get it for less than Amazon's price from other vendors - something I'd planned to do anyway, in spite of having ordered from Amazon.
 

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I just sent a very pointed email to Jeff Bezos at Amazon about the Disney and Warner situation.

Now before you laugh...

I know Jeff doesn't read all his emails. However, from past practice, they do get answered by Amazon Executives (not regular customer service).

I will let you know what kind of response I receive
 

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I have a prediction -- a version of

A) "What problem, there are no issues with Disney or Warner"
B) "It's all their fault. Neither will send us any product b/c they're mean and aren't looking out for the consumer like we are"
C) "We're setting up a consultant group to study the issue"

Is there a poll to predict the closest combination -- personally I'm voting on B and C or possible All of the Above
 
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I'm surprised the lawyers let that slide. I remember Earl Kress saying lawyers made them split each Wacky Races show into two separate cartoons, each with its own show opening and closing. Maybe because it was marketed as having "34" episodes when there were really only 17 half-hours.
So each cartoon of each episode was deemed a separate episode?
 

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I've cancelled this order from Amazon. Like V: The Miniseries (which has been out for more than a month and I never received), I was tired of waiting for this. I ordered from Warner Archive, knowing the extra money will save me aggravation.
 
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I just sent a very pointed email to Jeff Bezos at Amazon about the Disney and Warner situation.

Now before you laugh...

I know Jeff doesn't read all his emails. However, from past practice, they do get answered by Amazon Executives (not regular customer service).

I will let you know what kind of response I receive
Bravo. I did as much a few weeks ago. Tired of waiting for stuff to arrive or have it delayed by weeks, if not, in fact, months. Have gone through third-party sellers on Amazon (paying more) but getting my Warner/Disney product on time from them. No conflict of interest there!
 
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