RichMurphy
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The Criterion/Universal version also has the distinctive directorial flourishes of James ("Frankenstein") Whale, and iconic performances by Paul Robeson and Helen Morgan.
With Showboat, DP Charles Rosher was nominated for Best Cinematography; who had previously won for The Yearling and Sunrise. So this, alone, makes Showboat a Must Own for my interests. It’s WAC. And that, too, is why this announcement holds the promise of being visually wonderful.[...]
I am interested to see what the wizards at Warner Bros Motion Picture Imaging can do to improve the imagery of the 1951 version.
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Funny you should mention that. Joe E. Brown came through Charlotte in the early 1960s in a straw hat production of SHOW BOAT, and even a decade older than he was in the MGM film, his throw-down enactment you're referring to absolutely stopped the show. I've never forgotten it.And the 1951 version really dropped the ball in casting Joe E. Brown as Captain Andy and not keeping the scene of Andy being forced to act out all scenes of the melodrama, because that would have been absolutely perfect for him.
Jose, I was also there; though I had seen the 1936 version previously, in one of Bill Everson's classes at NYU. Watching the 1936 version for the first time was mind expanding, like discovering the world is round and not flat. It changed my attitudes about what could be done with film as well as music. It's not just that "Showboat" is Whale's most expressive and creative film, helming a crackerjack and no holds barred production that gleams and shimmers and impresses with its mammoth, as well intimate scale. It also epitomizes and expands through editing and camerawork and general cinematic invention what was innovative and influential in the original musical, all of that originality and innovation, as well as a focus on the minutiae of people's lives and hopes and sorrows, being excised from the MGM version, turning it into another gloriously Technicolored, "gotta sing, gotta dance" spectacular.December 27, 1977. The 50th anniversary of the premiere of Show Boat in Broadway. MoMA commemorated the day by showing all 3 film versions of the landmark musical, hosted by Miles Krueger. Watching all 3 films in quick succession (with breaks, of course) proved to me that the least of the 3 versions was the last. It does have its virtues, paramount among them is Ava (AVA), but it even gets the show boat wrong. And the color, forgive me, is garish beyond belief. Grayson is shrill...I could go on.
Bottom line:
I'll BE BUYING THIS RELEASE AS WELL! BECAUSE I LOVE THE MUSICAL AND I WANT TO OWN ALL VERSIONS OF IT, INCLUDING THE SILENT VERSION!
Yes, that's true about the design of the boat being wrong. They depict the Show Boat as a steamboat with its own engines when all "Showboats" were powerless vessels towed or pushed by another vessel.but it even gets the show boat wrong.
I can just imagine Louis B. Mayer saying, "Why spend money on an extra boat when we've already got a boat?"Yes, that's true about the design of the boat being wrong. They depict the Show Boat as a steamboat with its own engines when all "Showboats" were powerless vessels towed or pushed by another vessel.
I first saw the Whale version at Theatre 80 St. Mark's and subsequently at Bill Everson's James Whale class, which he gave me permission to audit gratis. Did you take that class? I was there every week, so between Bill's prints of Whale's films and those shown during the Universal cycle; and "Hello, Out There," shown by Marty Rubin, I was able to see Whale's complete output. A rare feat to accomplish nowadays!Jose, I was also there; though I had seen the 1936 version previously, in one of Bill Everson's classes at NYU. Watching the 1936 version for the first time was mind expanding, like discovering the world is round and not flat. It changed my attitudes about what could be done with film as well as music. It's not just that "Showboat" is Whale's most expressive and creative film, helming a crackerjack and no holds barred production that gleams and shimmers and impresses with its mammoth, as well intimate scale. It also epitomizes and expands through editing and camerawork and general cinematic invention what was innovative and influential in the original musical, all of that originality and innovation, as well as a focus on the minutiae of people's lives and hopes and sorrows, being excised from the MGM version, turning it into another gloriously Technicolored, "gotta sing, gotta dance" spectacular.
I need to double check to be sure but, going from memory, I believe the partnership of George Sidney and Charles Rosher was one of the great unrecognized teams in movie history.With Showboat, DP Charles Rosher was nominated for Best Cinematography; who had previously won for The Yearling and Sunrise. So this, alone, makes Showboat a Must Own for my interests. It’s WAC. And that, too, is why this announcement holds the promise of being visually wonderful.
IMDB cites 8 collaborations, but I could only locate 7:I need to double check to be sure but, going from memory, I believe the partnership of George Sydney and Charles Rosher was one of the great unrecognized teams in movie history.
It might have been; though I don't recall taking that class. Like you, I might have been sitting in. This was in the early 70's, when Bill was showing films at the Bleecker Street Cinema. He screened a lot of Whale in his classes, as well as what to me were then obscure UK films like "Gaslight", "The Spy in Black" & "Night Train to Munich." I also saw "Hello Out There" at the Cultural Center, as well as "Waterloo Bridge", "The Old Dark House" &"The Kiss Before the Mirror" at MOMA.I first saw the Whale version at Theatre 80 St. Mark's and subsequently at Bill Everson's James Whale class, which he gave me permission to audit gratis. Did you take that class? I was there every week, so between Bill's prints of Whale's films and those shown during the Universal cycle; and "Hello, Out There," shown by Marty Rubin, I was able to see Whale's complete output. A rare feat to accomplish nowadays!
That is correct, and it runs very long and it is every-minute-magnificent, and it can't ever, ever be staged as is. Unfortunately. Starting with the very historically correct N word. Inappropriate today.The definitive Show Boat? I'm afraid you'll have to look beyond the movies to EMI's 1988 studio cast recording.
I agree that the recording is an awesome achievement, but McGlinn really came across as an ass in the liner notes, especially his contention that the three songs Kern and Hammerstein wrote for the 1936 film "have absolutely no place in a staged production" (McGlinn's italics) with no explanation why. "Ah Still Suits Me" helps flesh out the characters of Queenie and Joe, and "I Have the Room Above Her" is a song that helps develop the blossoming love between Magnolia and Gaylord - oh, and it just happens to be jaw-droppingly beautiful.The definitive Show Boat? I'm afraid you'll have to look beyond the movies to EMI's 1988 studio cast recording.