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As I said earlier PLEASE Mr. F give us a clip a restoration clip like they were doing for a while - WOW how great would that be and it would really increase pre orders!
I doubt it or not to the extent that it changes the amount of units sold to a meaningful amount.
 

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I doubt it or not to the extent that it changes the amount of units sold to a meaningful amount.
You would know the market more than I but after years of YUCK on this title it would open up some wallets youtube has a lot of people clicking away and those great restoration clips were really great - got me off the fence on a lot of titles. These clips were great!
 
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You would know the market more than I but after years of YUCK on this title it would open up some wallets youtube has a lot of people clicking away and those great restoration clips were really great - got me off the fence on a lot of titles.
While some others may fit into that category, the Kino release is not "yuck." It's an accurate representation of what an original 1937 looked like. It's actually the original Selznick print.

That release should be kept alongside the new Warner Archive to show the variances between what can be harvested today from an original negative, and the original look of prints in 1937,
 

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While some others may fit into that category, the Kino release is not "yuck." It's an accurate representation of what an original 1937 looked like. It's actually the original Selznick print.

That release should be kept alongside the new Warner Archive to show the variances between what can be harvested today from an original negative, and the original look of prints in 1937,
Thank you for this Mr H! If the KINO is still available I will grab it and the Warner's too!
 

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Thank you for this Mr H! If the KINO is still available I will grab it and the Warner's too!


You might want to consider getting the Selznick boxed set:

 

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You might want to consider getting the Selznick boxed set:


You might want to consider getting the Selznick boxed set:

Thanks going to order the box! Really appreciate both RAH and your help on this!
 

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Thank you for this Mr H! If the KINO is still available I will grab it and the Warner's too!
Have you looked at the samples from the Kino/Selznick Star is Born? Bleary and smeary and peculiar colored? Many of the other examples Here look even worse. Is it that far removed from the much deplored, colorized My Man Godfrey? Keep in mind the Star shots are from blu ray and Godfrey is from DVD.
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Have you looked at the samples from the Kino/Selznick Star is Born? Bleary and smeary and peculiar colored? Many of the other examples Here look even worse. Is it that far removed from the much deplored, colorized My Man Godfrey? Keep in mind the Star shots are from blu ray and Godfrey is from DVD.
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Thank you for the screenshots - clearly looks better than the numerous versions out there for years, the look and the handling of the color which was under the rule of Technicolor's Natalie Kalmus on this picture seems to look as Robert Harris described the original prints and this print is Selznick's print so the historical importance of this release is key. I have just ordered it.
 

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Thank you for the screenshots - clearly looks better than the numerous versions out there for years, the look and the handling of the color which was under the rule of Technicolor's Natalie Kalmus on this picture seems to look as Robert Harris described the original prints and this print is Selznick's print so the historical importance of this release is key. I have just ordered it.
I still have the colorised DVD. Interesting but like many colorised efforts, they just seem washed out and blurry! I used to work for a company that specialised in colorisation, AFT in San Diego. This was back in the 80s...thier process was better than what came before, but still it just wasn't quite there. if you know what I mean?
 

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I still have the colorised DVD. Interesting but like many colorised efforts, they just seem washed out and blurry! I used to work for a company that specialised in colorisation, AFT in San Diego. This was back in the 80s...thier process was better than what came before, but still it just wasn't quite there. if you know what I mean?
The only good colorization job was Babes In Toyland and released by Goodtimes way back when. I was surprised to learn Frank Capra actually liked early colorization on It's A Wonderful Life then the firm stiffed him and basically ruined his work
 

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The only good colorization job was Babes In Toyland and released by Goodtimes way back when. I was surprised to learn Frank Capra actually liked early colorization on It's A Wonderful Life then the firm stiffed him and basically ruined his work
American Film Tech (AFT) had contracts to Disney and also Ted Turner....we were busy, LOL!!!
 

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What films did u work on any of the Roach releases?
No Hal Roach, allot of the early Disney b&w cartoons, many of the WW2 John Wayne titles like They Were Expendable and The Flying Leathernecks. The last project I was on beforeI moved on was of all things Casblanca. Some films are just better in b&w, and Casablanca, for me at least, is much better in b&w!! The problem is that the lighting was set for B&W. And even with the cleanest cells, adding color doesn't add anything to the mix. Cartoons on the other hand are more dificult to do, but they benefit way more from this process than movies. But here again it's just my 2 cents!! ;)
 

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No Hal Roach, allot of the early Disney b&w cartoons, many of the WW2 John Wayne titles like They Were Expendable and The Flying Leathernecks. The last project I was on beforeI moved on was of all things Casblanca. Some films are just better in b&w, and Casablanca, for me at least, is much better in b&w!! The problem is that the lighting was set for B&W. And even with the cleanest cells, adding color doesn't add anything to the mix. Cartoons on the other hand are more dificult to do, but they benefit way more from this process than movies. But here again it's just my 2 cents!! ;)
Magnificent work on Flying Leathernecks!
 
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I was never a fan of colorization. You have someone in the 80’s deciding what colors the director would have chosen. The worst I remember was the colorization of the Steve McQueen TV series, Wanted Dead or Alive. They colorized he’s eyes as brown and not the blue he was known for.
 

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You would know the market more than I but after years of YUCK on this title it would open up some wallets youtube has a lot of people clicking away and those great restoration clips were really great - got me off the fence on a lot of titles. These clips were great!

I love those! I've been watching them a lot recently, and I'm using them for a project. I love Love LOVE when they include that on the disc. It's incredibly fascinating.
 

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I was never a fan of colorization. You have someone in the 80’s deciding what colors the director would have chosen. The worst I remember was the colorization of the Steve McQueen TV series, Wanted Dead or Alive. They colorized he’s eyes as brown and not the blue he was known for.
Some colorizer did that with Frank Sinatra's eyes in Suddenly: brown instead of blue.
 

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