Wanted: Your Opinions on Def Techs (1 Viewer)

[Dan Keefe]

Just wondering what everyone's opinion on Definitive Technology Speakers is.
Does anyone own these? I am looking at Towers with powered sub BP2004TL and matching center speaker C/L/R 2300 and also the bipolar surrounds...



thanks,
dan

 

[Mike Sloan]

I have listened to the 2006's alot and think they sound really good! The soundstage is massive. One thing I would not skimp on is the surrounds. The smallest I would go with would be the BPX's. You will thank me later! A buddy of mine has the 2002's, BPX's and a VTF-3 and to me...it just can't get much better.

 

[David Nash]

I have the BP2004TL's, CLR2002 and the BP2X's and could not be happier. They exceeded my expectations with clear a detailed soundstage and surprisingly deep bass from the two 10" subs. This is in a room approx. 18' x 30'. I would recommend the CLR2002 over the CLR2300 even though it's not powered due to fact they have the same 5 1/4" drivers and it sounds great as well. Bottom line is you'll be happy with the Def. Techs. One day I would love to have another pair of the BP2004's for the rears and switch the BP2X's to the sides for 7.1 sound. Talk about bass galore!!!
Good Luck
David

 

[Bob McElfresh]

I bought DefTech based on how good the CLR 2002 center speaker is. It provided detail and a soundstage that other sets of 3 speakers did not.

I got the 2000tl towers, but right now the build-in subs are turned off in favor of a external SVS.

So my advice would be to consider some of the un-powered towers, the CLR2002 center and a external SVS for about $750.

Note: others have said the 2002 center sounded better than the more expensive 2000 model.

A note about bipolars: to really get the effect that bipolar offers, you really want to pull these speakers about 3 feet into the room. The delay from the back-fire sound is what fools your ears into thinking the sound-source is farther away than it really is.

 

[Kris Coffin]

Hey Dan,
I am currently using the BP2000TL fronts, CLR3000 center and 4 BPVX/P rears.
For the most part I have alot of praise for Def Tech, but I have found that unfortunately the do not offer that great a bass response. I went higher end with the BPVX/P's because they had the powered woofers in the rear, and I like alto of bass, but I have had nothing but problems with them bottoming out. I have had to almost turn the bass dial on them totally off, a real letdown, and a huge waste of cash. With the extra I spent on the BPXV/P's, I could have got 2 SVS subs. :frowning: For surround effects though, they are great, the fill the rear of the room with ease, things just come alive behind you. I have demo'd the BPX's and they sounded pretty good as well.
The biggest improvent came with the CLR3000 though. Dialog in movies is crystal clear, and the addition of a powered sub in the center channel is quite nice as well.
Can't say I have any experience with the bp2004tl, but I am quite satisfied with the 2000tl's, bass issue not withstanding. (Getting a couple of svs cs16-46 subs in February, and taking Bob's approach) But the above comments are correct, these babies need there space, I have mine about 2 1/2 feet from he back wall, toed in, and the room is just enveloped in 2 channel stereo. My sweet spot in stereo is about 6' wide , unbelievably huge. High's and Mids sound very nice, sound is nice and warm, in my opinion, not nearly as bright as I have read elsewhere.
I would definitely take Bob's advice though, look at the unpowered towers, and with the money you save, get a decent SVS sub.
Hope this helps.
Kris

 

[EdR]

This might not be the most useful post, but here's my experience with DT sepakers.

My father had heard of DT from a friend of his, so we went to an audio store to check them out...

I brought several CDs of familiar material. The amp was an NAD (don't recall the model).

We listened to several models, I believe all were from the Bipolar Tower series.

My overall impression was that they had very sloppy exaggerated bass. The midrange seemed compressed and mostly lost in a sea of bass. They had lots of high-end, which seemed moslty to compensate for the excessive low-end. I had to check the amp to make sure that there wasn't some kind of 'loudness' switch on it...there wasn't.

As you might be able to tell, I didn't like them at all. My sense was that they were 'rock and roll' speakers...boosted upper and lower ranges.

For reference to what I DO like, I own a pair of Dynaudio Audience 9's. I also have to say that we only listened to music, no HT stuff at all.

 

[Wayne McRae]

Bob just described my setup. A pair of BP-10's,CLR 2002 center,a pair of BP2X and a SVS. Great for music and fantastic for home theater. They are fussy as to their location. I have mine 32" from the wall and slightly toed in.

 

[Tom S]

I purchased the following, sight unheard, due to recommendations from this forum, and unfortunately, a "HT Magazine", (something about strapping rocket to your chair):
BP2006TL's
C/L/R 2002
BP2X (Wanted BPX, but no stock)
I have them paired with a Denon 3300 receiver. I was so happy and proud of my new set-up. That was until I turned them on. What a major disappointment. I almost packed them up and brought them back.
I found the BP2006TL's EXTREMELY bright. To the point it sounded like there was white noise super-imposed on to the signal. They were so bright, I neeed to turn down the treble on the Denon to compensate. I also found it lacking in the mid-range, but not really poor. I also didn't find the bass to my liking. It seemed either too much or too little. I couldn't find the sweet spot. I decided to keep the bass control at the 1 O'clock position as recommended in the manual. They still seem to "boom" excessively on some CDs. I also learned that they sound better in DIRECT mode, although I still listen to CDs almost exclusively in 5 CH STEREO (with some bass/treble compensation).
All's not negative. I did like the sound stage that the bipolar effect presented. The sound is so uniform across the viewing area that sometimes I wonder if all three speakers are functioning. Take that as a compliment to the timbre matching. I do enjoy them much more for HT than music.
I am a bit disappointed with the surrounds, but I think that has to do with my installation. I have to have them on the back wall, I only have one "side-wall", so I don't have a choice. I think a side wall install probably would be better. I can't prove it, but I think their sensitivity are a bit lower than their big brothers, especially at low volume. Haven't sat down with my trusty SPL to find out.
I am not necessarily panning DefTech, but after the initial shock wore off, I did start to warm-up to them. I did keep them and, believe it or not, I have considered upgrading and buy them this way (which is also my recommendations):
1) Upgrade to the 2002's or 2000's. I think the extra drivers should make a world of difference. Don't expect a lot from the built-in subs. Be prepared to add a dedicated sub.
2) Upgrade the surrounds to BPX, same reason.
Unfortunately with me, that would mean a pricey upgrade, as such, I would consider other brands and let the shoot out begin.
Happy listening,
Tom

 

[Tom S]

delete duplicate. Sorry