Wal-Mart to sell HDTVs: let the hypocrisy begin!

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  1. Wayne Bundrick

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    Walmart has been selling HDTVs in Canada for a while now. This is a good thing.
     
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    People that use stretch modes are just as bad as people that prefer non-OAR.

    cheers!

    Josh
     
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    This is one of my boiling point issues. All of these retailers are selling 4:3 ratio HDTV sets, and NEVER educating the buyer that the HDTV standard is 16:9!! For all those suckers plunking down $2K for an HDTV, most are not aware that once HDTV broadcasts start picking up, they will be obsolete!

    Face it -- most people who are buying a TV at a Wal-Mart are expecting it to stick around for awhile, not something that they'll be replacing in 2 years. How sad that these retailers are doing such a disservice to their customers and not warning them. What's the risk? At worst, you'll sell them a 16:9 set instead for a little more money.

    Why can't 4:3 just die already!?!?!?!

    Rich
     
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    Why would anybody buy a 4:3 HDTV set when the standard for hi-def broadcasting is 16x9? Why are manufacturers even MAKING these in hi-def? What a sham.
     
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    I've gotta say, I haven't sprung for an HDTV yet, I want one, a lot. However, my 8-bit Nintendo, SNES, Sega Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, etc are not Widescreen devices. Not to mention the VCR. With how much space you loose @ 16:9 for a 4:3 source, I'm not moving to it for quite a while. I'll deal with the black bars for movies for quite a few years yet. I am glad to see Wal-mart selling them!!
     
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    HD 4x3 just makes no sense. Anything that's HD will have black bars and reduced size, so you don't gain that much detail. You'll gain some from the additional scan lines, but the video on your average 4x3 TV will be small enough that the added detail won't be very visible regardless. Anything that's full screen won't be able to take advantage of the added resolution anyways. So what have you gained?
     
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    Samsung, Sony, and JVC make 4:3 HDTVs that allow consumers to see the full resolution of HDTV and DVD discs. How?

    The television does the vertical compression. Heck, the Samsung 4:3 HDTVs actually offer four viewing options: Normal, Wide, Zoom 1, and Zoom 2. The wide mode just squeezes the distorted image to the proper dimensions without resolution loss.

    And Philips has a 16:9 HDTV projection TV with "Automatic Phospor Aging Compensation." WTF is that? Easy, when viewing anamorphic 2.35:1, 4:3 letterbox, or 4:3 fullscreen on these projection TVs...the TV actually redraws the image every few minutes pixel by pixel to the left, right, up, or down. Depending on how the image fills the screen. This prevents the burn-in.
     
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    Bob:

    Thomas Newton hit the nail right on the head when he wrote:

     
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    Josh Lowe,

    I'll say it again, anyone who uses stretch or zoom modes simply cannot comment of the OAR preferences of everyone else.

    Why is it okay to alter images in the name of "saving gear", when it is not okay to alter images in the name of making money (for the studios), or personal preference (J6P)

    I am a hardline OARer, and I am firmly against settling for anything else, even for off the air broadcasting.

    cheers!

    Josh
     

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