Wahoo! SVS addressing the $400 market...PB10-ISD coming (1 Viewer)

[kevin tate]

Ron, how low can the PB10 ISD goes? I imagine that it'll match the HSU STF2 @ 25Hz, if not lower.

 

[Allen_N]

Looks cute I like the white color although it wouldn't fit with my planned decor.

 

[SVS-Ron]

Allen,

We'll take cute. The other colors are much more menacing though I hope ;^)

Kevin,

Funny you should ask, that's up on the News page too. For those worn out from clicking the week away:

+/- 1dB from 21-125hz quasi-anechoic. *And using the industry standard +/-3dB window… 18-200hz

Not too shabby. Best we've seen in this class, which is why we're pretty confident it's the entry level sub to beat.

Ron

 

[Tom Vodhanel]

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[Allen_N]

That looks like a nice output. It is flatter than the PB1. It gives a little up in the low end but in the higher it appears to beat it in output. Looks like a very nice entry level sub!


http://www.svsubwoofers.com/images/p...rts/pb1isd.jpg

vs

http://www.svsubwoofers.com/images/p...dfrfullres.JPG

BTW, do you all have a response chart from the PB2-ISD and PB2-Ultra?

 

[kevin tate]

Thanks for the info.

 

[Kenneth Harden]

Almost looks NHTish.

Very cool, the price point is amazing.

 

[RayM]

Wow, this couldn't have come at a better time... in the hunt for a subwoofer right now.

 

[kevin tate]

I didn't see the speaker terminals on the PB10. Are there speaker terminals connections or RCA in connections?

 

[terence]

Good looking sub Ron, i think it will be a wife pleaser as well.

 

[JohnSmith]

Kevin, I think this sub is designed like the Servo, with the bare essentials needed for most hook-ups, and no internal crossover. In most cases volume and a single RCA is more than adequate, although phase is useful too.

It's only if you wish to have ability to have tune configurations, or connection from a stereo analogue pre-amp (require sub crossover) or connection from high level inputs (again full-range, require sub crossover)

Just fitting what you need, and getting rid of everything else results in a cheaper product and/or putting the rest of the price into box/driver/higher quality amplifier.

 

[Geoff L]

I'm sure they Ron/Tom will be back to fill in the blanks on the amp.

Looks as tho a single RCA line in, phase 0-180 switch, auto/on/off switch, with volume and crossover controls.

NO speaker level in/outs
No crossover bypass switch

Power?
Just a guess around 150+ continious & transit peek power higher of course????

Could be very very wrong on Amp controls and power. In the smallish pic it's very hard to see the controls clearly.

Edit:
Anyone think or "see different" till Tom or Ron comes to straighten us all out???

 

[John Garcia]

Pre-order...pre-order...pre-order Let me know when.

 

[Tom Vodhanel]

Master power switch
Auto on/always on switch
0-180 continuous phase control
Gain control


>>>Just a guess around 150+ continious & transit peek power higher

 

[Brandon:W]

OK - let me see if I have this straight:


PB10-ISD:
- Power: ~300W
- +/-3dB 18-200 Hz (20 Hz tuning?)
- Nice Frequency Response
- Dimensions: 15"x18"x22" Weight: ??lbs
- Phase Control
- Gain Control
- Choice of color (black, white, silver/grey, tan)
- Price: ~$400


PB1-ISD:
- Power: 320W
- +/-3dB 20-100 Hz (22 Hz tuning)
- Also Nice Frequency Response
- Dimensions: 18"x21"x20" Weight: 78lbs
- Phase Control
- Gain Control
- Dual RCA inputs
- Speaker terminals
- Choice of color (black only)
- Price: $599


So, why would I pay $200 more for the PB1-ISD? What am I missing?


Brandon

 

[Allen_N]

It will provide better output at a lower frequency. This is based on the charts. It is possible the charts were tested under different environments as well but I would think they would be the same.

 

[Brandon:W]

From the looks of the charts:

15 Hz: PB10-ISD: 80dB PB1-ISD: 84dB
12 Hz: PB10-ISD: 60dB PB1-ISD: 70dB
10 Hz: PB10-ISD: 40dB? PB1-ISD: 62dB


Is the extra 10dB worth the extra $$



I'm not dissing the PB1-ISD, believe me. I'm thinking of getting the PB2-ISD. But this really makes me want to pre-order this "little" guy!

Brandon

 

[Allen_N]

Might have different brand amps as well, not sure? I don't know if they put BASH amps in all their subs or not. I agree though, when I saw how close they were and if that was all I was looking at I would get the PB10 over the PB1.

 

[JohnSmith]

10dB is a hell of a difference, no doubt help from the bigger driver. I would pay $200 for a maximum of 10dB, that's if you are near the limits of the 10.

 

[Tom Vodhanel]

Hi all,

1) all of our powered models use the BASH amplifier platform...the new PB10 included.

2) Remember, $399 will be the pre order pricing. So once we start shipping...the difference won't be $200, but something a bit less than that.

3) that difference gets you a 12" driver and a more full featured amplifier. So the PB-1isd will be able to handle larger rooms a bit better(it will have more clean output capabilities over most of the intended operating bandwidth)...and it willallow you to connect to almost any type of audio system. With the PB-10isd...you'll need to connect it to a DD/DTS receiver/processor.(or something that includes built in low pass crossover capabilities for the bass)...or add an external crossover.


Tom V.
SVS