Velodyne HGS 18 pricing

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  1. John H

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    I was quoted a price of $2000 by a local dealer.
    Is this a fair price for this unit?
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    Not just "fair" -- "incredible"! That price represents 1/3 off list. I'd venture a guess that you will not find that low a price for this unit online ("for real" and in stock). If this is a new unit in the factory sealed box from an authorized dealer it is a "steal". Even if it is a demo unit (in good shape), it is a reasonable price.
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    33% off one of the best subwoofers on the planet?
    Seems reasonable to me...
    BTW---if they have a FSR18...that may actually perform a little better(and be a little less expensive).
    TV
     
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    John I thought your room was already "overloaded"... [​IMG]
     
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    Pretty good, I guess. Up here in Vancouver, I got a quote of $2500 US at a reputable dealer. If I was serious, he may have knocked of another $200.
     
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    quote: John I thought your room was already "overloaded"... [​IMG][/quote]
    In TV's words from another thread...
    you're basically *loaded* already
    I have never been totally pleased with the PF18's performance. I am going to overload with a pair of HGS 18's for some clean bass.
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    [Edited last by John H on September 03, 2001 at 08:42 AM]
     
  7. Tom Vodhanel

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    With about 2000 cu-ft,well enclosed,minimum of 114dB of headroom needed for the bass.
    the twin HGS18s should get you there.
    I'm not sure how they're going to react to massive bass synth though...you still like to play with the octave droppers John?
    I almost hate to say this...but...4 CS_Ultras would have about the same footprint(assuming you're not stacking the HGS18s)...add one big pro amp and 1 kick ass 5 band parametric and it would be an option to consider I think.
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    dual Vels or four SV's...don't see how you can lose [​IMG]
     
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    Tom,
    I currently have one sub in each front corner. I have tried stacking them in both the left and right front corners but this configuration seems to produce smoother bass.
    I am restricted for space.
    The HGS 18 measures 21"W x 20"D Similar in size to the subs I am using now.
    A pair of 16" tubes in each corner would not fit in my room. Or four in one corner. I could squeeze a pair in the left front corner.
    How would a pair of Ultras compare to a pair of HGS 18's in my situation?
    I have all channels higpassed at 80Hz. Occasionally I'll demo at reference. 99.9% of the time I listen at my preference listening level which is 7db below reference.
    Yes, I use a PCA on my subwoofers at all times for movie material. I bypass it for music.
    The range button is depressed and the restoration level (added subharmonics) knob is in the 12 o'clock position.
    I calibrate the LFE/Subwoofer channel to the same level as the others after subharmonics have been added.
    Thanks,
    John
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    [Edited last by John H on September 04, 2001 at 01:26 AM]
     
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    Just to let you know, I "have access" to internet Velo prices that are $1950+ shipping. Since the Velo is the only HGS that is not shipped double-boxed(due to UPS size restrictions), they tend to get damaged by UPS and FedEx. That's why they are now shipped by private carrier for $150. It's nice to be able to save the sales tax by buying out of state, but the price of $2000 by a local dealer would make it foolish to buy from anywhere else. SVS may be a better decision for you as far as bang for buck. If you're not happy with your local dealer's service, drop me an email at [email protected]
    Regards,
    Randy
     
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    >>>Tom,
    I currently have one sub in each front corner. I have tried stacking them in both the left and right front corners but this configuration seems to produce smoother bass. Unfortunately my room is square 16'x16'
    I am restricted for space.
    The HGS 18 measures 21"W x 20"D Similar in size to the subs I am using now.
    A pair of 16" tubes in each corner would not fit in my room. Or four in one corner. I could squeeze a pair in the left front corner.
    How would a pair of Ultras compare to a pair of HGS 18's in my situation?>I have all channels higpassed at 80Hz. Occasionally I'll demo at reference. 99.9% of the time I listen at my preference listening level which is 7db below reference.
    Yes, I use a PCA on my subwoofers at all times for movie material. I bypass it for music.
    The range button is depressed and the restoration level (added subharmonics) knob is in the 12 o'clock position.
     
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    John how are you liking your 2000TL's? How do they compare to the 30's?
    You should be very very pleased with the new Vels...
     
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    Bob_A
    I am very pleased with the 2000TL's
    I used the original 2000 for I few years before I decided to try the BP30.
    The BP30 just did not perform well in my room.
    John
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    John, my single HGS-18 complements the Def Tech 2000's real well. Can't imagine what dual HGS's will do to your house stucture. [​IMG]
    ChrisA used to have dual HGS-18's and was about to add two more that's when he went the DIY route. May be he can share his past experience.
    PF
     
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    quote: I think you may be running into limiters in the DTs that are clamping down hard on the bass you're adding.[/quote]
    Tom,
    I just finished speaking with Def Tech Technical.
    I was told the the PF18 uses no limiters or subsonic filters on the signal.
    I have never experienced bottoming. Maybe the amplifiers are running out of steam?
    I also just spoke with Audio Control on the PCA.
    I was told that the PFM module implements itself on both generated subharmonics as well as the original signal. It rolls off everything 18dB per octave below it's frequency value.
    It is still in the signal chain even when engaging the bypass restoration circuit.
    When my PCA was new I replaced the factory installed 25Hz chip with a 20Hz value.
    A 20Hz chip is the lowest value they normally sell. They are fabricating me a 15Hz chip at no charge. [​IMG] The servos have a selectable 15Hz subsonic filter built in. I figured there is no reason to limit the signal before it reaches the subwoofers.
    PF,
    I am looking forward to my new children. [​IMG]
    John
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    [Edited last by John H on September 04, 2001 at 11:02 AM]
     
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    I also use an HGS-18 to augment the low bass in my system. I have BP3000s as well, and the Velodyne HGS-18 really adds that extra oomph. THe LFE and all bass below 30Hz is sent tothe HGS-18. Awesome sub. And $2000 is an extremely good price. I doubt any dealer with half a brain would sell you a new one for that price. $2000 is 33% off retail.
     
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    double post
    [Edited last by John H on September 21, 2001 at 02:08 PM]
     

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