Variety article: More Than Two Thirds of Consumers Have Never Bought a Digital Video

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  1. satam55

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    Variety: More Than Two Thirds of Consumers Have Never Bought a Digital Video
     
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    The irony of this article is that on this and many similar message boards we debate physical vs digital constantly and the truth is consumers are voting for neither.

    The latest sales figures for physical discs came out yesterday and sales are the lowest they've been since the start of the format. But saying consumers have larger VHS collections then digital collections is pretty damning too.

    People just do not care about "building collections" in ANY manner. I am more convinced now than ever that the future of home video is what the state of music is now with Apple Music/Spotify, etc. Pay a set fee per month and watch whatever iTunes or Vudu has in their catalog.
     
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    I will continue to build my library that started with laserdisc to blu-ray but at a slower rate since I have most of what films I like to see on disc. By the way I noticed how crapy looking on some of the low priced Blu-ray players with no display or even a power light.
     
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    Of those two thirds, how many who have never bought a digital movie were active DVD buyers? And how many of those are people who replaced DVD buying with streaming rentals?
     
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    And therein is what bugs the crap out of me. As we just witnessed with Netflix pulling tons of Universal titles, there's no guarantee that stuff will consistently be available for streaming. Just like in the days of reruns, you never knew when the local TV station would pull your favorite show.

    I want the satisfaction of knowing that I have the physical media present. My boss has been trying to get me to invest in a contraption called SkyStream, a streaming box we sell at work. He bragged how you can find "any show" you want on there. So far, I have yet to find hardly any of the classics I want, and if I do, they're in horrid condition and compressed all to pieces to a point of being almost unwatchable.
     
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    Both of those describe me.
     
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    I have never bought a digital video.
     
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    I have a hell of a Rifftrax collection I've bought and downloaded.

    And those are fairly priced, DRM-free, I can do what I want with them (meaning I can store them where I want), and if I need to, I can download them again and again from the site because I've already paid for them.

    That's the kind of digital video I'm interested in buying. Unfortunately, the major companies aren't interested in giving it to me that way. So I don't buy digital videos outside of Rifftrax.
     
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    Yes, I refuse to "buy" something that I can't actually own independently.
     
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    I've bought or rented a few tv episodes when the TiVo didn't record right (before all networks had streaming services).

    I've bought a small handful of movies from iTunes when they were on sale, a 10 for $20 combo.

    Not my normal approach to getting movies. But I've used the services.
     
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    Yep.

    It's not that I'm hooked on physical media and having shelf after shelf of discs to display, what I want is to own the content. Discs are generally the thing that offer that option. When digital can do that with no strings attached, I'll have stacks of little 1TB hard drives sitting everywhere.
     
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    I'd consider it if I could burn it ONCE to BD-R. Otherwise, forget it! The powers that be will have to give a few more options for folks like me, I'm afraid. Right, like we'll inundate the already anemic "market" and put ourselves in legal peril dealing in pirated discs...GIVE ME A BREAK!
     
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    I have never bought a digital video or song, nor do I ever plan to. Because "that's how they get you," to quote Tom Hanks on SNL.
     
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    All those stats tell me is that a large proportion of people are watching illegal downloads and/or streams.
     
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    I have purchased 1400+ digital movies/ TV series over the last few years. I stay away if they don't carry the UV logo though. The only discs I buy anymore are 3D since many are not found on digital and what they have the price starts high and just stays there on most titles.
     
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    ...and yet you guys keep telling me physical media is "dying".
     
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    There's the third option between buying discs and buying bits, which is streaming bits.
     
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    Streaming does have its place, but I'd still prefer to own my 0s and 1s.

    ...and maybe they could even throw in a 2 as a special feature.
     
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    What I meant was it's not a contradiction that no ones buying downloads and that physical media is dying. Because it might be both as people embrace subscription streaming.
     
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    Or it may be that physical media is transforming rather than "dying." It was just announced here yesterday that ClassicFlix is starting its own BD label, and the other boutique labels seem to be continuing, if not picking up speed, licensing from the major studios and elsewhere. In addition to mainstream releases of course.

    The Variety article says two-thirds of consumers haven't bought a digital movie, but it also says two-thirds of disc buyers didn't activate their digital copy option either, suggesting a majority of disc owners aren't interested in downloads. Put together it appears ownership, at least in the near future, will not be download because currently two-thirds of all consumers aren't doing it. Streaming may be the major option going forward, as it already is, but of course that isn't ownership and people know that. So for those who want to own their movies, it appears to me discs will continue to be the strongest option.
     
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