Cliffk
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Allright, I'm calling on my fellow forum members to critique, with feedback and suggestions, my fast approaching move to 7.1.
This summer, I'm upgrading my HT to 7.1, buying 6 cinema recliners (with cupholders and everything) , installing a platform to raise one row, and installing movie theater style carpet. Next summer, I'll buy a HDTV FPTV, screen, HDTV set-top box, and Prog. DVD, plus put the finishing touches on the HT aesthetics wise including building a false front wall and adding some acoustic wall panels.
Unfortunately, my budget is not unlimited, and some of these items are, as you well know, high dollar. My 7.1 audio budget is max $1,875 (boosted to that figure with the sale of my RX-V2095 on a custom HT install job I'm doing).
With the $1,875 figure in mind, I'm looking to buy now to move to 7.1, with no plan to upgrade for the next 5 to 7 years. Also, I have absolutely no interest in 2 channel or multi-channel music listening. I'm 100% HT. And I'm doing HT THX style - at least speaker wise with Atl. Tech's Sys 350THX. That of course means I'm running satellites all around crossed over at 80Hz. With my 2 352 PBM's handling everything below 80 Hz, there is no huge need for gobs of power (as would be the case for someone driving full range mains). So, a high-end receiver, like my 2095, has more than enough juice for my set-up.
Looking first at the possibility of buying an Outlaw 950, after spending $950 for it, I'd only have $925 left for amplification. I absolutely require with this upgrade that I'll have 7 channels of equal amplification for my 7 speakers. I just don't think $925 is going to buy 7 channels of great amplification, certainly not the kind of amplifier(s) that you'd say you'd be happy with for the next 10 - 15 years which of course is one of the main draws to separates. If I'm buying a sub-par, or sub-ideal amplifier, then I've defeated one of the primary justifications for going with separates. That said, I'm also not sure that the 950 gives me what I need features wise (zone 2, etc.).
After going through that analysis, I then look to the landscape of receivers in my price range, and the unit that immediately jumps out at me is the Pioneer Elite VSX-47TX. My number one evaluation point for this upgrade is how well the processor handles 5.1, 6.1 movie playback. From the reviews, user comments, and a look at the THX Ultra 2 surround processing methodology, I believe it to be possibly the best implementation of 7.1 for movies out there (excepting Lexicon's Logic 7 which is out of my price range except in the HK AVR-8000 (but it doesn't have 7 channels of power)). The 47TX has plenty of power for my system, lots of features, handles zone 2 better than the 950, and includes what some are calling a revolutionary technology - MCACC. I'm wondering how I could go wrong with this unit? The only other 2 products in the world right now that have the Ultra 2 processing capability are out of my price range (the 49TX and the Denon 5803). For someone like me that is 100% movies, the Ultra 2 post processing seems to offer more than any other unit out there in a similar price range as far as 7.1 post processing goes.
So, unless someone can convince me otherwise, I plan on buying the VS-47TX within the next few weeks.
Please let me know your thoughts.
-Cliff
This summer, I'm upgrading my HT to 7.1, buying 6 cinema recliners (with cupholders and everything) , installing a platform to raise one row, and installing movie theater style carpet. Next summer, I'll buy a HDTV FPTV, screen, HDTV set-top box, and Prog. DVD, plus put the finishing touches on the HT aesthetics wise including building a false front wall and adding some acoustic wall panels.
Unfortunately, my budget is not unlimited, and some of these items are, as you well know, high dollar. My 7.1 audio budget is max $1,875 (boosted to that figure with the sale of my RX-V2095 on a custom HT install job I'm doing).
With the $1,875 figure in mind, I'm looking to buy now to move to 7.1, with no plan to upgrade for the next 5 to 7 years. Also, I have absolutely no interest in 2 channel or multi-channel music listening. I'm 100% HT. And I'm doing HT THX style - at least speaker wise with Atl. Tech's Sys 350THX. That of course means I'm running satellites all around crossed over at 80Hz. With my 2 352 PBM's handling everything below 80 Hz, there is no huge need for gobs of power (as would be the case for someone driving full range mains). So, a high-end receiver, like my 2095, has more than enough juice for my set-up.
Looking first at the possibility of buying an Outlaw 950, after spending $950 for it, I'd only have $925 left for amplification. I absolutely require with this upgrade that I'll have 7 channels of equal amplification for my 7 speakers. I just don't think $925 is going to buy 7 channels of great amplification, certainly not the kind of amplifier(s) that you'd say you'd be happy with for the next 10 - 15 years which of course is one of the main draws to separates. If I'm buying a sub-par, or sub-ideal amplifier, then I've defeated one of the primary justifications for going with separates. That said, I'm also not sure that the 950 gives me what I need features wise (zone 2, etc.).
After going through that analysis, I then look to the landscape of receivers in my price range, and the unit that immediately jumps out at me is the Pioneer Elite VSX-47TX. My number one evaluation point for this upgrade is how well the processor handles 5.1, 6.1 movie playback. From the reviews, user comments, and a look at the THX Ultra 2 surround processing methodology, I believe it to be possibly the best implementation of 7.1 for movies out there (excepting Lexicon's Logic 7 which is out of my price range except in the HK AVR-8000 (but it doesn't have 7 channels of power)). The 47TX has plenty of power for my system, lots of features, handles zone 2 better than the 950, and includes what some are calling a revolutionary technology - MCACC. I'm wondering how I could go wrong with this unit? The only other 2 products in the world right now that have the Ultra 2 processing capability are out of my price range (the 49TX and the Denon 5803). For someone like me that is 100% movies, the Ultra 2 post processing seems to offer more than any other unit out there in a similar price range as far as 7.1 post processing goes.
So, unless someone can convince me otherwise, I plan on buying the VS-47TX within the next few weeks.
Please let me know your thoughts.
-Cliff