UPDATE The Abyss and True Lies --4K Now Possibly In 2019 (See Post #69) (1 Viewer)

[Colin Jacobson]

Those transfers have been "ready" for his review for a long time. What a lame excuse.

Exactly - that's why it's impossible to get excited about this "news"...

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Maybe I am gullible but I believe the transfers have been ready for his sign-off.

The guy has been working on 3-4 films. I absolutely believe he has no time to sit and look over what Fox has prepared.

There is no doubt Fox is highly aware of the demand for both these films. It sounds very reasonable that they prepp'd a 4k transfer. However, to get a hold of Cameron to actually sit for the amount it takes to view the results is probably near impossible at this point.

At least Cameron is coming out and acknowledging that he is putting the effort forefront on his list of things to do.

 

[dpippel]

Ron, these two films have never seen a HD release on physical media. The only thing out there are DVDs, and in the case of The Abyss a NON-ANAMORPHIC DVD. That's all we have, almost 20 years into the 21st century. This has gone on year after year after year. The bottom line, IMO, is that Cameron doesn't give two figs about either of these movies. If he did we'd at least have Blu-ray releases of them on the doorstep of the year 2019. He'd MAKE the time. At this point his rationalizations are a joke as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Mark-P]

Cameron must have it written into his contracts that he has final approval of all releases of these two films, otherwise Fox would have gone ahead and released them without his signoff.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Cameron must have it written into his contracts that he has final approval of all releases of these two films, otherwise Fox would have gone ahead and released them without his signoff.

Exactly!

Fox can't release these without his approval.

For the past few years, Cameron has been busy with a multitude of film projects.

I'll agree that he has better things to do with his time, but we will have to agree to disagree that he doesn't care about their releases. After all, these films are his children. Of COURSE, he wants them properly released. It just has to be on his time.

 

[dpippel]

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. It's beyond ridiculous at this point.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. It's beyond ridiculous at this point.

Well, okay. We are not all going to agree on this forum.

 

[dpippel]

Well, okay. We are not all going to agree on this forum.

Yep, and that is perfectly fine. I'm just frustrated that we don't yet have these movies, loved by many, in a format that does them justice. Especially The Abyss. I'm hoping this will change in my lifetime.

 

[Scott Merryfield]

Exactly!

Fox can't release these without his approval.

For the past few years, Cameron has been busy with a multitude of film projects.

I'll agree that he has better things to do with his time, but we will have to agree to disagree that he doesn't care about their releases. After all, these films are his children. Of COURSE, he wants them properly released. It just has to be on his time.

If he felt that way about these films, they would have been released on BD a long time ago.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

Maybe I am gullible but I believe the transfers have been ready for his sign-off.

The guy has been working on 3-4 films. I absolutely believe he has no time to sit and look over what Fox has prepared.

There is no doubt Fox is highly aware of the demand for both these films. It sounds very reasonable that they prepp'd a 4k transfer. However, to get a hold of Cameron to actually sit for the amount it takes to view the results is probably near impossible at this point.

At least Cameron is coming out and acknowledging that he is putting the effort forefront on his list of things to do.

Lots of filmmakers are busy. They can still find a few hours to watch a movie and say whether or not they think it looks good.

We're very close to the 20 year anniversary of the "Abyss" DVD. Blu-ray has existed for nearly 14 years. The guy couldn't block off 3 hours over 14 years???

 

[Mark Booth]

I've been feeling inclined to boycott (avoid) any and all new Cameron films until such time as 'True Lies' and 'The Abyss' make it to home video with HD (preferably 4K) transfers. If only we could get EVERYONE to do that.

Mark

 

[OliverK]

I've been feeling inclined to boycott (avoid) any and all new Cameron films until such time as 'True Lies' and 'The Abyss' make it to home video with HD (preferably 4K) transfers. If only we could get EVERYONE to do that.

Mark

If everybody was boycotting his movies from now it would certainly free up a lot of his time in the future

 

[TravisR]

Lots of filmmakers are busy. They can still find a few hours to watch a movie and say whether or not they think it looks good.

We're very close to the 20 year anniversary of the "Abyss" DVD. Blu-ray has existed for nearly 14 years. The guy couldn't block off 3 hours over 14 years???

I think it boils down to him focusing on whatever currently catches his fancy (whether it's making a ton of Avatar movies or checking out the bottom of the ocean or presumably spending time off with his family) and he doesn't give much priority to movies that he made decades ago. I love that he focuses on new projects but I wish that he didn't want it both ways where he has to OK the transfer AND also doesn't want to lose any time from his current work.

 

[Dick]

I've been feeling inclined to boycott (avoid) any and all new Cameron films until such time as 'True Lies' and 'The Abyss' make it to home video with HD (preferably 4K) transfers. If only we could get EVERYONE to do that.

Mark

You know, I don't think Cameron would be phased in the least.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

I've been feeling inclined to boycott (avoid) any and all new Cameron films until such time as 'True Lies' and 'The Abyss' make it to home video with HD (preferably 4K) transfers. If only we could get EVERYONE to do that.

Mark

Cameron puts out a new movie every 300 years - this doesn't seem like much of a threat!

 

[WillG]

I've been feeling inclined to boycott (avoid) any and all new Cameron films until such time as 'True Lies' and 'The Abyss' make it to home video with HD (preferably 4K) transfers. If only we could get EVERYONE to do that.

Mark

Personally I’m not exactly breathlessly anticipating the Avatar sequels. First one was technically impressive for the time, but storywise, meh. Way too preachy and derivative.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who has moved on from Avatar.

 

[WillG]

I think it boils down to him focusing on whatever currently catches his fancy (whether it's making a ton of Avatar movies or checking out the bottom of the ocean or presumably spending time off with his family) and he doesn't give much priority to movies that he made decades ago. I love that he focuses on new projects but I wish that he didn't want it both ways where he has to OK the transfer AND also doesn't want to lose any time from his current work.

I feel if I was Cameron it would be worth it to find the time to do this just so I wouldn’t have to keep getting asked about it.

 

[The Obsolete Man]

I get the feeling these will finally make it out on disc under Disney , in their expensive, almost never on sale way.

Not that Disney will make any great effort or anything, but the transfers are ready and they'll be the ones to benefit from that after the Fox deal is final.

 

[Neil S. Bulk]

Ron, these two films have never seen a HD release on physical media.

True Lies was released on the D-VHS format.

 

[Bryan^H]

I think "The Abyss" was James Cameron's last great film.