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Uk movies from NETWORK and the BRITISH FILM

Discussion in 'DVD' started by John Sparks, Dec 27, 2017.

  1. 1 Dec 27, 2017
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    John Sparks

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    Just ordered DVDs of INVASION, THE TERRORNAUTS, TIMESLIP and DEVIL GIRL FROM MARS all from Studio Canal @ Amazon UK. These are Region 2 DVD discs. Luckily I had my Samsung K8500 converted to REGION FREE @ 220 Electronics.

    I've only watched INVASION and the print was excellent!!! Upscaled to 4K and it's perfect.

    I haven't watched the other three because I just got them. Soon I'm going to compare the Image of DEVIL GIRL FROM MARS vs DEVIL GIRL FROM MARS Network.

    Just love having a Region Free Player so I can enjoy all that the other countries have to offer!!!

    ...and they say DVD is dead...
     
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    Perhaps slightly off topic, but the Region Free THE FLYING DEUCES (1939) Blu-ray by Network, which stars Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy, is of the best quality that I've seen of this underrated gem on Home Video!

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    While THE FLYING DEUCES is the only Network title that I have, I've read very positive things about the quality of Network's releases. Like Studio Canal UK, most of their titles are apparently Region 2 locked (Due to differing international rights issues, is my guess!), so a player with Region 2 capability would be a must for these.

    CHEERS! :)
     
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    I'm not sure who said that about DVDs, but in my opinion, they certainly have their place, and for titles that aren't available on Blu-ray (Or 4K UHD!), a good quality DVD will certainly do in a pinch!

    CHEERS! :)
     
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    Just received from the UK Arrow's dvd release of The Sorrow and the Pity (1969) and a much improved picture compared to my old Millestone Collection dvd from 2000. Also bought the UK blu-rays of The Pumpkin Eater (1964) and Pulp (1972).
     
  5. John Sparks

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    ...and there you go!!!
     
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    Well Tony,

    How many DVDs have not been released on BD...what, a shitload of them...and then the question asks, from VHS to DVD...probably just as many.

    I guess we're lucky that what is being released, we're still here to appreciate them.

    I have a great HT and of course I don't mind watching SDs, as long as they enter my collection, no matter if they are authorized or boots!!!
     
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    Such a shame, John: you had me with the subject of this thread and your messages so far, right up until your last paragraph. Every hardcore collector has privately traded rare and unavailable films at some point, but I don't condone your particular ethos. Publicly stating here and in other threads that you support buying mass-produced unauthorised and bootleg releases, is admitting you're helping kill the niche home video industry we all love so much. To say nothing of helping ensure those self-same films will never get quality releases.

    I respectfully suggest you read this and seriously rethink your position.
     
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    I have several DVDs from Network and I can confirm that their picture quality is usually superb.
     
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    I have not stated that I buy "MASS PRODUCED" bootlegs anywhere at any time, you stated that. I stated that I have in my collection bootlegs. And I mean by that is films that are not on the main stream market anywhere and probably never will be.

    Case in point, I have a fan made copy of I WAS A TEENAGE WEREWOLF, TERROR FROM THE YEAR 5000, INVASION OF THE SAUCER MEN. Those movies will probably be never released in my lifetime by anyone. That's the kind I collect, so what's the big deal?

    I don't appreciate being accused of sometime that I don't do. You could have PMed me and I would have gladly told you what I collect.

    I don't care about the article you mention because it has nothing to do with me.
     
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    Ok, perhaps instead of "mass-produced" I could have said "commercially-produced", as in sold for profit, not traded. My point still stands. You've posted numerous times about your fondness for bootlegs, on a site that actively – I'm very pleased to say – discourages them. We get it: you're happy collecting bootlegs, just please don't keep banging on about it.
     
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    And who are you to tell me anything? I just explained what I collect, maybe the word bootleg means something different to me.

    Get off your high horse and quit telling people what they can say or collect.
     
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    John Sparks

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    Just compared Network version of DEVIL GIRL FROM MARS and Images. Network run time is 1:14:26 and Images is 1:16:14, wiki states the run time is 76 min. Don't know of why the discrepancy in run times.

    Networks picture is a large jump in clarity. Images just looks lousy, washed out, with vertical scratches and dull. Network starts out with a picture of Big Ben and A LONDON FILMS (iNTERNATIONAL) RELEASE, then BRITISH FILM CORPS PRESENTS (UK theatrical), the DC-3 plane flying and then exploding, then the title.

    Image starts with SPARTAN PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS (USA theatrical), the plane flying, a cut in the film, the plane fying again and then the title.

    Network has film cues all through it, but Image doesn't. Image has a trailer, Network has a still gallery with many of the original posters, the press book, no trailer.

    If Wade Williams owns this film, how did Network get such a better print?

    Well worth the upgrade to buy this version.
     
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    The time difference might be a PAL Speedup ?
     
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    I googled it and it says that PAL would be a longer film, but it's not...maybe 2 versions? Image is the US print and the other is the UK print.
     
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    Watched THE TERRORNAUTS and it had 2 versions on it. The original at 1:14:05 and the edited 58:05. Color was washed out in both but 3/4 the way through the color came back in both versions.

    Amateur production but good for your sci-fi/horror collection.

    TIMESLIP is another British movie that looks like it was made for TV. Good premise and another to my sci-fi collection.

    Just ordered THE STRANGE AWAKENING and THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN OF THE HIMALAYAS. The ASOTH they say is a much better print than the one from Anchor Bay years ago, which was a terrible print. TSA has some horror element in it, so that was easy purchase for me.
     
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    It is the same cut. The Image release is NTSC and the Network is PAL which means the film runs at 25 frames per seconds as opposed to the native 24 frames per second resulting in it running a teeny bit faster. Thus the shorter run time for the DVD.
     
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    ??? The Strange Awakening is a very routine thriller about a man who loses his memory and is "adopted" for sinister reasons by a very suspect family. The only horror element is the various plot implausibilities.

    High time it watched it again. Maybe tomorrow . . .
     
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    15 minutes?
     
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    Don't know what you are getting your 15 minutes from?
     
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    Just got the films DEVIL GIRL FROM MARS and THE TERRORNAUTS mixed up, that's all.
     

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