Just thought I would mention that it seems Ubid.com has had a lot of Wharfedale manufacture-refurbished speakers on their site as of late. They have several speakers from the EVO line, Diamond line etc..... I ended up picking up a pair of EVO DFS (step up from the Diamond DFS) bipole surrounds for an *incredible* deal (well under $100) I ordered them on Wed and they arrived this morning (Saturday) with standard ground shipping. I've heard both positive and negative things about ubid.com but I have to say that it was a simple process and the speakers were well packed. I opened them up and I swear that I cannot tell that they are refurbished. They certainly look brand new and sound incredible. I figured that I was getting such a sweet deal (plus a 1-year manufactures warranty) I couldn't go wrong. If you're in the market for some speakers at an affordable price, I'd suggest taking a look. It was my first experience with ubid and I was a bit hessitant but everything went smooth.