classicmovieguy
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Why?Keith Cobby said:I wish they would do a deal with Warners.
The problem is TT can only release so many titles each month too so there is an output restriction no matter what direction you go in.Keith Cobby said:Warners have many titles which I suspect they consider unprofitable to put out on blu-ray. I thought releasing through their Archive would speed things up but this doesn't seem to be happening. The Twilight Time model enables titles to be released which probably wouldn't be seen otherwise. Warners have all the MGM musicals, loads of top Paramount titles, film noir etc. Many of these would sell in fixed quantities at a premium price.
That's my thought also. I still believe that WAC will get the ball rolling on their Blu-ray program.LOVE is a Fox CinemaScope film and I do wish for more CinemaScope films on Blu-ray so I will get this to support, but it is not one of my favorites. I am looking forward to THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN for this is one of the big budget Fox titles that flopped and brought down the Zanuck reign at Fox. And I always love Las Vegas stories that are filmed in Paris because the star insisted on it.Robert Crawford said:The problem is TT can only release so many titles each month too so there is an output restriction no matter what direction you go in.Warners have many titles which I suspect they consider unprofitable to put out on blu-ray. I thought releasing through their Archive would speed things up but this doesn't seem to be happening. The Twilight Time model enables titles to be released which probably wouldn't be seen otherwise. Warners have all the MGM musicals, loads of top Paramount titles, film noir etc. Many of these would sell in fixed quantities at a premium price.
It may not be a question of elements OR economics. It may well be a question of the economics of restoring faded or damaged elements.Keith Cobby said:Yes, TT are a fairly small distributor but I use them as an example because I am unsure if it is the quality of elements which is holding back releases or sheer economics, when titles are being quickly discounted after release and are therefore unprofitable. We obviously don't know the profitability of TT or their individual titles, but it may be that their business model would work on a larger scale for other distributors, enabling more deep catalogue to be released at a premium price for a fixed number of copies.
Well, Fox seems to give DVD-era masters to TT quite a bit. But their more recent titles, for the most part, have been coming from masters which are above basic HD resolution.Robin9 said:It may not be a question of elements OR economics. It may well be a question of the economics of restoring faded or damaged elements.
Clearly, both Fox and Sony believe that it makes commercial sense to restore old movies and then make HD transfers . . . and then lease the masters out to Twilight Time and European equivalents. Paramount, on the other hand, seem to feel that it does not make commercial sense to allocate resources to restoring films it intends to lease to Olive Films. Olive Films' BRDs are superbly mastered from scratched and sometimes dirty elements.
Which Fox "DVD-era masters" would those be Lromero1396?Lromero1396 said:Well, Fox seems to give DVD-era masters to TT quite a bit. But their more recent titles, for the most part, have been coming from masters which are above basic HD resolution.
I had no idea that those two titles you mentioned came from recent transfers. Those actually were two of the titles I was referring to. I also thought at that point that Demetrius and the Gladiators came from the DVD master, but when reading your comment I recalled that it was a 2k scan. Other than that, I would have surmised that The Sound and the Fury and The Rains of Ranchipur were a bit older masters because of color and grain structure seemed more like what I would have seen on an older Fox DVD. Either that or the source materials are just not very good.ROclockCK said:Which Fox "DVD-era masters" would those be Lromero1396?
Careful, this is potentially a trick question*.
* Off-the-top I can think of a handful which some initially dismissed as "DVD-era masters", but which actually turned out to be recent, or at least post-2010 HD remasters (e.g. Journey to the Center of the Earth and The Song of Bernadette).
Oh, yeah--I can't stand it when people sing that whole song! But I loved what they did with it years later in "Grease."Robin9 said:I hope - and expect - this is up to Fox's and Twilight Times' usual high standards for 50s films on Blu-ray.
I've always liked this movie and it's about the only time I've ever warmed to Jennifer Jones. William Holden I've always liked. This is one of the two films - the other was Daddy Long Legs - which first alerted me to the quality of Leon Shamroy's work.
I also like the theme tune; the tune, not those awful lyrics. Whatever else love may be, it most certainly is not "the April rose that only grows in the early spring."
I concur. Newman contributed a beautiful score for Splendored Thing, even though I feel that it's decidedly on the repetitive side. I think that the studios did all of the songs mainly as promotional material. I mean look at Pat Boone's needless musical numbers in Journey to the Center of the Earth and one of the worst theme songs of all time IMO; Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. I highly doubt the lyricists were aiming for Oscars with their work for those two films, though.classicmovieguy said:I love the melody but the lyrics are... meh. Baring in mind this was when MOST movies (whether they were musicals or not) injected a Title Song of some description purely so the composer/lyricists could throw their hat into the ring for the Academy Awards...
You're right. *facepalm*ROclockCK said:More often than not, it's attributable to the condition of the surviving film elements.