TV & Ron: Is there an upgrade program for us Ultra buyers too?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by John Morris, Apr 2, 2002.

  1. John Morris

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    Originally, I had a pair of SVS 20-39CS subs which, in my room, suffered from major cancellation and room mode problems. Based on TV's recommendations, I opted to sell my CS subs, rather than return them to SVS, and then bought one of the first Ultra subs available to us common folk. It has performed admirably over these past months. Still, I yearn for more bass in my room, from a single subwoofer.

    Recently, SVS announced that they were offering an upgrade for the CS subs which brought their performance "almost" up to Ultra standards. I was very happy with the fact that others could now enjoy the deep, relatively flat bass that I've heard for months for a few bucks less. That is good business!

    Then, I read that the Ultra driver had also been upgraded to the new and improved Ultra driver which surpasses the old Ultra driver in both flatness and output. Since then, I have been waiting for that same upgrade program to be offered to us early Ultra Adopters...

    IMO, not offering it to us is Bad Business!

    When is SVS gonna offer this upgrade progam to us too?

    Thanks for your help SVS!!!
     
  2. Jeffrey Forner

    Jeffrey Forner Screenwriter

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    John;

    I can't answer your questions for you, since I'm obviously not with SVS, but I do want to clear up a little bit of incorrect information in your post:

     
  3. John Morris

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    Hi Jeff F: Thanks for you help! I'm not quite sure then, where all the SVS drivers fall in line? So? Are you saying that the new SVS Ultra drivers do not outperform the old Ultra drivers; and, to the same extent, as do the New CS drivers to the Old CS drivers??? Whoa...? Is that what you are saying? How bout some proof then?

    Are you saying that the new Ultra's are no better than the Old Ultra's drivers? If so, what data can you produce that will prove this belief???

    Thanks for your data and proof!
     
  4. Jeffrey Forner

    Jeffrey Forner Screenwriter

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    Uh... well, I actually didn't say anything about the Ultra drivers. But before I go any further, let me see if I can't put the SVS drivers in order from lowest performer to the highest, so you know what I'm talking about.
    • Old CS and PC Drivers
    • New Drivers for the CS's and PCi's
    • CS+ Drivers
    • Old CS Ultra / SS Driver
    • New CS Ultra / SS Driver
    I hope I got that all straight.
    Again the driver upgrade you mentioned in your first post replaces the original driver in the CS and PC subs with the new one for all current CS subs and the new PCi's. I can tell you from experience that this driver swap does make a difference, but I doubt it comes close to what a CS Ultra can do.
    Now, whether or not the new Ultra drivers offer much in the way of improved performance, I can't say. I have yet to hear an Ultra sub. That's a question I'll leave up to head sub-humans themselves.
    And if they don't make the new driver available as an upgrade option, it could be because the new design won't fit in allotted space for the old Ultra driver. I remember someone asked Ron and Tom if they could swap the original CS and PC drivers for a CS+ driver, and the answer was, "It wouldn't fit." However, that's only speculation on my part and is something I'm not qualified to answer. Again, I'll let the SVS boys do that.
     
  5. Glen_L

    Glen_L Stunt Coordinator

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    Here's what TV had to say on the matter from this thread:
     
  6. Matt Malto

    Matt Malto Stunt Coordinator

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    John- Calm down. Sheesh...
     
  7. Tom Vodhanel

    Tom Vodhanel Cinematographer

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    Hi guys,
    Jeffrey has the pecking order of the SVS drivers down pretty good [​IMG]
    Nothing has changed since I posted the info already quoted in this thread. We will definitely consider offering the new Ultra drivers in an upgrade package...we just need to catch up on current subwoofer orders first.
    TV
     
  8. Brian Bunge

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    John sounds like the perfect candidate for a DIY sub! [​IMG]
    How does an 18" driver in a 14ft^3 enclosure, tuned to 18Hz, with 119dB at 18Hz (anechoic) and 1400W behind it grab you? [​IMG]
    Brian
     
  9. John Morris

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  10. Brian Bunge

    Brian Bunge Producer

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    John,
    My own personal K2 arrived yesterday! I'll be using the same 18" driver I referenced above in a 5ft^3 sealed enclosure (stuffed like hell). I just don't have room for a 14ft^3 tube. But, I'll still be looking at 110dB anechoic at 20Hz! [​IMG]
    Brian
     
  11. John Morris

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    Brian: I have two words for you... slab insurance. [​IMG]
     
  12. JerryW

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    John, I'll buy your old Ultra driver if you get an upgrade for your sub. [​IMG] Let me know how much you want for it... I'm going to be building a 284L sealed sub for my music only system and that driver would be perfect for it.
     
  13. John Cain

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    Thx for the post and question John, I was wondering the same thing.

    And thanks for the answer Tom.

    -- John
     

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