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The Odd Couple is another show crippled by music cuts, IIRC.

The worst case scenario is a show with a limited audience AND tons of music, which doesn't get released at all in america.

For example, such as the show Cold Case which was a 2nd or 3rd tier procedural show back in the CSI heydays.
 

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The music industry is getting greedier and greedier but it's not resulting in better music. Changing the laws seems to have left DVD/Blu-Ray/et al unaffected so far. And they still end up getting nothing when the studios balk at the ludicrous sums of money they want. I've seen talented, trained musicians struggle to make ends meet while the Music Rights Monster devours a chunk of TV history by making it inaccessible in anything other than a bastardized form.

Lots of these songs have changed publishing rights ownership over the years, just as movies and TV shows have.
 

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Lots of these songs have changed publishing rights ownership over the years, just as movies and TV shows have.

The worst is when the heirs/descendants of the original artists + writers just treat the copyrights as an easy cash machine.
 

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It's not just the money. Part of it is Les Moonves' toxic influence. Other than mistreatment of employees, I wouldn't be surprised if personal vendettas did take part in what did and did not get released. It'll take years to restore their public image. You cut corners and release a substandard product, and then when it doesn't sell, you assume no one wanted it in the first place. They fail to take into account people who would have bought a product had they not cut corners on that product.

Ratings then mean nothing now in terms of sales. Look at how many shows Sony (including many Screen Gems/Columbia/Sony didn't actually produce) released first seasons of with little to no fanfare. Shows that were hits originally. Shows that ran long enough to syndicate. Shows whose second seasons have yet to come out at all. That was more than a decade ago. Half of them, if that, got reprieves from Shout! And look at shows from various content owners that were marginal ratings performers at best originally that still sold well enough on DVD to get finished.

These third-party distributors are not content creators, so they don't have the same overhead costs.
 
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In the case of Les Moonves, I would be somewhat surprised if Cold Case was swirled up directly in the toxic tornado at CBS.

IIRC, Jerry Buckheimer was the "golden boy" of CBS procedurals during that time period. Bruckheimer was responsible for stuff like the CSI franchise, Without a Trace, Cold Case etc ...
 
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And MoD is just enough for them to say "but we tried" when sales are virtually nonexistent for S2.

Just going to have to wait for another company to step in and release the entire series on Blu in one complete set. Shout Factory could be the company to do so, as they've just recently announced the up-coming releases of two Paramount titles. This bodes well for future Paramount library titles getting released.
 

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"MOD" products may not be inferior but they're vastly overpriced. That alone keeps me away from them.

Pretty much.

A greater price for the same or lesser product.

I would've figured MoDs would've been cheaper without storage and mass production and all that to factor in, but no, they found a way to make them more expensive.
 

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How are they not inferior? Warner Archive MOD Blu-rays aren’t, because they’re pressed - but CBS MODs are all burnt.
 

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