Casey Neutron
Stunt Coordinator
- Joined
- Feb 6, 2001
- Messages
- 127
We've all seen their ads--on tv, in newspapers (today’s USA Today for example) and even little fliers in certain Warner dvds. They claim “no cuts,” yet they continue to cut many of the films they show.
About two months back I sat down to watch “Kramer vs. Kramer” on TCM. In his introduction, Robert Osborne warned of brief nudity but said TCM was proud to be showing this film without any cuts. Then they showed an edited version in which all the “goddamns” were changed to “damns.” The scene in which Dustin Hoffman makes breakfast for his son and ends up yelling “Goddamn her!” is changed to “Damn her!”. It was an important moment in the movie and the changing of the dialogue (Oscar-winning dialogue, in fact) muted the impact. Blake Edwards‘ “Wild Rovers” is another recent TCM airing that butchered the dialogue beyond comprehension.
Now I don’t mind if TCM edits their movies--that’s completely their decision. What makes me mad is when they claim otherwise. Someone seeing a film for the first time is given the impression they are seeing the director’s vision when it very well may have been altered to fit TCM’s standards and practices.
I see they’re showing “Raging Bull” tomorrow night (March 1). Think this one will get by without censorship?
I’ve seen many films on TCM that actually were uncut as claimed (including f-words and nudity), so I’m just a little confused as to why some are cut, some aren’t, but all are given the same “No Cuts” promise.
Turner Classic Movies still treats their films with more respect than the current AMC, but whenever I see “No Cuts” in their ads I can’t help but feel lied to.
About two months back I sat down to watch “Kramer vs. Kramer” on TCM. In his introduction, Robert Osborne warned of brief nudity but said TCM was proud to be showing this film without any cuts. Then they showed an edited version in which all the “goddamns” were changed to “damns.” The scene in which Dustin Hoffman makes breakfast for his son and ends up yelling “Goddamn her!” is changed to “Damn her!”. It was an important moment in the movie and the changing of the dialogue (Oscar-winning dialogue, in fact) muted the impact. Blake Edwards‘ “Wild Rovers” is another recent TCM airing that butchered the dialogue beyond comprehension.
Now I don’t mind if TCM edits their movies--that’s completely their decision. What makes me mad is when they claim otherwise. Someone seeing a film for the first time is given the impression they are seeing the director’s vision when it very well may have been altered to fit TCM’s standards and practices.
I see they’re showing “Raging Bull” tomorrow night (March 1). Think this one will get by without censorship?
I’ve seen many films on TCM that actually were uncut as claimed (including f-words and nudity), so I’m just a little confused as to why some are cut, some aren’t, but all are given the same “No Cuts” promise.
Turner Classic Movies still treats their films with more respect than the current AMC, but whenever I see “No Cuts” in their ads I can’t help but feel lied to.