Tube Amps: Are they worth the time (my time)

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  1. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Eventualy I would like to Bi-Amp my mains and I have been

    kicking around my options on this. I could go the easy route

    and buy 2 solid state 2 channel amps from Onkyo (MT208's)

    and send 200 watts to each tower and know that they will be

    a perfect match for the internal amp inside my Onk 787.

    On the other hand I hear so much about tube amps. Let me say

    that to me, Vinyl is dead.. I am not one to embrace poor old

    technologies just for the sake of calling myseld an audiophile.

    Sorry if that offends the vinyl guys, If you love records

    that is GREAT but to me... They sound like dog droppings. We

    all have our prefrences.

    That being said I am wondering if Tube amps would sound good

    or if they would just drive me nuts.. I hear them described

    as "warm" or "mellow" yadda yadda. Now the goal of any audio

    system is to produce accurate music. So, if these Tube amps

    are merly coloring the audio to make it sound something other

    than what it should sound like, then what is the point?

    Also I look at the price of tube amps and I simply can't see

    where the cash is.. There can't be more than a couple hundred

    dollars in parts so how they they charge $3800.00 for a 100

    WPC x 2 CH tube stage amp? When I could buy a 200wpc Onk for

    $200.00-$250.00 ?

    I am sure this is a BIG can of worms and I hope I don't offend

    anyone too much, I am just curious what other's opinions may

    be on this subject.

    Thanks!
     
  2. SamRoza

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    Brett, Tube amps don't "Color" the sound, they're class A amps. In theory, since they're the most efficient amps, they sound the best and put out the most watts per energy spent...but I don't like their sound at all. I'll stick with my solid-state.

    Sam
     
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  4. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Saurav,

    Thanks for the reply.. When you say a modern turntable how

    modern does it have to be? I just sold a Pioneer belt Driven

    aluminum platter variable speed turntable with a diamond

    cartridge and an auto return tone arm. Granted that was a

    15 year old turn table and using pristine records it sounds

    ok.. It's just dated technology IMHO.. Too hard to take care

    of, too hard and too expensive and too limited of a market

    these days..

    Will people say 10 years from now that they are selling thier

    DVD players and going back to VHS because it was superior?

    I try to keep an open mind, and I have absolutely nothing

    against anyone hyping vinyl, it's just not my cup of tea.

    As for Tube vs Solid State. How about if I ran a tube amp for

    my Mids/Highs and a SS for my lows? that would save me from

    having to spend a ton on 2 tube amps and I would have better

    control over the low freq's than I would with a tube.

    I appreciate that link and I am certainly going to check into

    it!
     
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  6. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Saurav,
    Your sounding like a broke record![​IMG] LOL
    I will have to demo some new "state of the art" turntables
    but that won't change my mind.. I am sure the new units do
    sound fantastic but the inconviniece to me is not worth it.
    Back to the SS Vs. Tube debate, I tend to agree about being
    able to notice a readily aparent and distinct diffrence when
    using 2 completely diffrent technologies to drive a pair of
    speakers. I wanted to hear your opinion on that, and it is
    the same as my preconception. Matching gains would be hard
    enough and matching sounds would be impossible.
    I am thinking I will just stick to SS.. Allthough I did look
    at that Bottlehead D.I.Y Foreplay Linestage and it looks
    interesting.. I am guessing I would go out from my Receiver
    into the Linestage and out from the Linstage into a SS Amp?
    or SS Amps...
     
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    SamRoza said this:
     
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    I just auditioned an Audio Reasearch Tube Preamp & a mated AR SS amp and can't say I was that impressed. The dealer stated that the difference in high quality SS amps to tube amps, when at a higher level, was not all that different.
    But the Bottle Head Kits look like a cool DIY project for not alot of $$$.[​IMG]
     

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