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Trying out CarPlay

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Nelson Au, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. DaveF

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    It was tough car shopping in 2016. CarPlay was just appearing in some midsize sedans. But I test drove the Honda Accord, which I was replacing, and the CarPlay was really buggy I drove a couple different cars and it was erratic in its performance. Even setting aside the design problems with the newer Hondas back then, CarPlay was kind of a mess. I ultimately bought a Subaru without CarPlay. They got CarPlay a year or two later. So now I've got a new car and am several years from when I can upgrade to get CarPlay.

    C'est la vie :)
     
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    At this point, I’m still in the camp that most CarPlay issues are the fault of automakers and not Apple. When implemented on a well thought out aftermarket head unit, CarPlay is extremely stable and has very few issues. When implemented on a stock infotainment system, CarPlay is a mess and buggy as all get out. I’m really hoping automakers get their act together (not likely) and have CarPlay implementation figured out by the time I’m in the market again.
     
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    I have really fallen in love with WAZE and I did not expect to.

    On the surface, it seems a little less feature-rich than Google Maps (though Google owns Waze), but it's the interactive features that really hooked me in.

    The interactive community of Waze drivers is what makes this such a great choice for navigation.

    Cop on the road? I just hit a button to alert everyone, that is, unless the alert has been already posted by someone else.

    Accident or traffic? It's usually indicated on the map thanks to other Waze drivers.

    There is also a Cookie Monster voice option. And, I have found a website filled with other voices now removed (including Morgan Freeman) that you can reinstall yourself.

    I actually throw on Waze even when I don't need directions. It gives me a clear understanding of police activity and traffic on my short errand runs.
     
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  5. Scott Merryfield

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    Google Maps has begun to incorporate some of the reporting from Waze into GM. I get alerted quite often to "speed trap ahead", for example. Google Maps also alerts to upcoming traffic issues and will offer a new route -- it's done that for as long as I have been using it.

    I tried Waze a few times quite awhile ago, but really preferred GM. The info from Waze regarding police activity, stalled vehicles, etc. seemed out of date when I tried it on the 3 hour drive to my parents home in northern Michigan, and I didn't care for the interface as much. I do need to give it another try, as it's been quite some time and things may have changed.
     
  6. Scott Merryfield

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    I tried out Waze again yesterday while driving to meet some friends for lunch. I still found the interface and functionality lacking when compared to Google Maps. First off, even though I have Waze setup to access my Google calendar, Waze still didn't list my lunch meeting as a routing option -- I always add the location to these events so I can easily route to them. I had to use the Google voice function to search for the restaurant, and then find it among the provided list. Then, when driving my normal route, I usually prefer to turn off an earlier exit, even though Google thinks it's 1-2 minutes longer. With Google Maps, a dialog box will display on the screen with a "2 minutes longer" or "similar ETA" message. Selecting that box changes your route. Waze didn't list the alternate routes -- it just plodded along on its only known route until I exited early, and then changed its route.

    Finally, Waze failed to notify me of a police car on the freeway during the drive. If it cannot do that reliably, I see no reason to use it instead of Google Maps (which also alerts for speed traps). Losing the calendar integration and alternate routes display is too much to give up, as I use both those features regularly.
     
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    Scott,

    One thing that is important to realize, and I think you do realize this...

    Waze is an interactive mapping system that depends on nearby driver support.

    This means if you don't have a lot of fellow Waze users on the road, you aren't going to get up-to-date police reports.

    My area is heavily populated with Waze users.

    In fact, today was a great Waze experience. I had to drive 90 minutes each way to visit a friend.

    Waze users properly informed me of several police traps. All were accurate. There were even reports of hazardous conditions such as a car stopped on the side of the road -- and get this -- even roadkill in the middle of the road. Yes, there's an alert for roadkill.

    I absolutely realize Waze lacks some of the features that Google Maps has. However, Google Maps fails completely for me when it can't report police speed traps or hazardous road conditions. It's really a fun, interactive tool. When I see a cop or road issue I immediately push the alert button and report it. That information gets uploaded immediately and other Waze drivers see it.

    It all comes down to individual needs. I totally get your situation and thing Google Maps is the way to go for your lifestyle.
     
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    Ron,

    Google Maps will report speed traps -- it has done it numerous times for me. I am not sure if they are pulling the info from Waze, but it will announce "there is a speed trap ahead" and show an icon on the map where the trap is located. It doesn't announce any of the other hazards, such as roadkill ;), but if one of those hazards is actually impacting traffic it will show up as a traffic slowdown, which is all I really care about anyway. Accidents which are impacting traffic are announced, and alternate routes are offered when available. If your current route is still the best, it will also inform you of that.

    I still had Waze as my default last evening when going out to meet some friends, and this time it did access my Google calendar unlike my previous trip, so I am not sure what is going on there. I still switched back to Google Maps, though, for the trip.
     
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    Hey guys-

    I thought I’d chime in that I took part of the holiday to install a new headunit in my 2001 BMW 330ci. As I said at the start of this thread, my original BMW head unit display had gone bad and was displaying gibberish. And I had been reviewing and staying on top of the latest updates to a third party headunit that’s popularly installed in my BMW 330ci because they designed it to replicate the factory appearance and fit. This unit has been updated to include CarPlay and Android’s version of CarPlay built into the head unit. So I finally pulled the trigger and bought the headunit and spent part of the weekend installing it myself.

    I have not had a lot of time to try the headunit. But I have tested CarPlay and the headunit does connect to the iPhone with a iLink dongle and a standard Apple USB cable. It works! I have not tried Bluetooth connection yet, but will give it a go. I’m still learning the features and I’m hoping via the second USB input, to try other media files such as videos. I’ve only had a chance to do a short drive around town with it working. Radio is working, and there is no ignition buzzing, so that’s good news too. CarPlay was running and I used the Apple maps to track my drive to see how it works. I do plan to try Waze and Google maps to see how they workout during my commute to work.

    My iPhone is not quite up to date with iOS 13.1.3. I’m surprised I didn’t know there is a newer iOS update!

    Here she is with the new headunit installed and CarPlay working. This is from a company called Dynavin who specialize in aftermarket for German cars but they’ve expanded recently to included a few American cars too.
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