Tron (1982) 4K Restoration Screening (3 Viewers)

[Alex...]

Restoration was shown at the Academy Museum in LA on the 3rd.




Another angle

 

[Wayne Klein]

Wow that looks impressive.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

The current Blu-ray is already pretty amazing (and better than the "before" sections on this video), but if there's still room for further improvement, I'll take it. Just watched this with my kids a few weeks ago and I'm not sure they understood any of it (they're 5) but they loved the visuals.

 

[DaveF]

Is this precursor to a new D+ and/or 4K release? I haven’t bought it on previous releases. Always think I’ll do it and then never do. If there’s a stunning new remaster coming, I’m definitely going to watch when it lands.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Would imagine the work is being done to tie into the release of the upcoming 3rd film, which is slated for October release. They haven't officially announced this remaster for physical media or streaming yet.

 

[Konstantinos]

I hope they don't "fix" anything for this release!

 

[SwatDB]

Would imagine the work is being done to tie into the release of the upcoming 3rd film, which is slated for October release. They haven't officially announced this remaster for physical media or streaming yet.

And then afterwards leave the other restorations (prior or after buyout) behind unreleased?

Disney, IMO are currently the ones getting on my nerves when It comes to releasing popular/catalog titles on 4K UHD or Remastered BDs, and now they seek to release films, so long as they are tied in with upcoming films?

What has brought about this change?

Nevertheless, I'm still keeping my eyes open for some sort of evidence that have plans are made to release Physical 4K/BD medias from either Disney/Sony or Criterion (for now, as I'm currently wishing Disney/Fox could sign a license deal with Arrow Video [UK or US at various stages of their title rightsholding situations, take fx. Brazil or Legend (1985) [as these were internationally released by Fox]), To date I have not found anything equivalent like the 2011-2019 licensor releases era. Just when I thought Disney was going to resurrect the "Release by 4K/BDs from Studios" outside labels practice? But they didn't.

Ergo, I'm still total unconvinced, unless Disney releases or give a piece of their owned libraries to future 4K UHD/BDs.

The question remains, will we ever see more Remastered 4Ks and Remastered BDs while eventually releasing new Isolated Scores (Final Film Mix or Composer's Original Scores) in the future?

Thank you

 

[JoshZ]

The current Blu-ray is already pretty amazing (and better than the "before" sections on this video),

Yeah, that's one thing I really hate about these sort of "Before/After" demos whenever a movie is supposedly restored. The Before section is always taken from some blurry VHS copy to exaggerate the improvement. There's no way that's the source this restoration was working from. The Blu-ray I've owned since 2013 looks better than that.

 

[Patrick McCart]

It's mentioned the "before" examples are raw scans before color correction and cleanup. Still slightly misleading since the raw scans are supposed to be low contrast to allow for more latitude in color correction, but it does highlight how important grading is to get the proper look.

 

[MarkantonyII]

I think the title needs amending, as per the talk before the screening, the restoration is 4K, the 65mm footage was scanned at 8K & the Vistavision 35mm footage at 6K, but it was not “restored” at 8K.

 

[SwatDB]

I think the title needs amending, as per the talk before the screening, the restoration is 4K, the 65mm footage was scanned at 8K & the Vistavision 35mm footage at 6K, but it was not “restored” at 8K.

Summary:

Scanned at:

65mm: 8K
35mm Horizontal (VistaVision for VFX): 6K

And then afterwards restored and remastered in 4K with the use of up-to-date digital technology.

And that my folks, Is a Fancy looking presentation for a 4K UHD or Remastered BD, the restoration team (as well as the CEO should learn that in the future) do you agree?

I'll put it on the shopping list next to the 60th Anniversary of TSOM (should Disney not let us down)

Next up, status report on Disney's Remastering Budget.
Thank you

 

[JoshZ]

It's mentioned the "before" examples are raw scans before color correction and cleanup. Still slightly misleading since the raw scans are supposed to be low contrast to allow for more latitude in color correction, but it does highlight how important grading is to get the proper look.

And is that supposed to explain why the "raw scan" parts look so soft and blurry? Are we supposed to believe that color correction magically popped that footage into focus?

 

[tenia]

It's mentioned the "before" examples are raw scans before color correction and cleanup.

Well, then, that's "just" the routine work for creating a new master. Which is the issue with these before / after, especially when there already was a previous work. You’d think “oh wow, it’s so much better than the last time”, but actually, it’s a comparison with the rawest thing they could show, and it offers so little insight to the viewers. In this case, on top of it, it doesn’t look like the raw scan, as it’s actually pretty clean and stable.

 

[Osato]

Thanks for this thread. I really appreciate the information and the videos. Looking forward to seeing it again for myself!

 

[Konstantinos]

I hadn't realized there were already "fixes" on the blu-ray!
I watched this film first time ever from that blu-ray, so I guess I couldn't have known..

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[Mark Cappelletty]

I was there last Thursday and the restoration is truly remarkable. Writer-director Steven Lisberger was there (along with FX maestro Harrison Ellenshaw and others, which is weird that they weren't on-stage for a panel) and before the show, I overheard him say that this was the best the film ever looked.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I was there last Thursday and the restoration is truly remarkable. Writer-director Steven Lisberger was there (along with FX maestro Harrison Ellenshaw and others, which is weird that they weren't on-stage for a panel) and before the show, I overheard him say that this was the best the film ever looked.

So wonderful to hear a firsthand impression - thank you for sharing. This is one of those films where I could, with critic hat on, point out various shortcomings, but none of that really matters - if it works for you (as it does for me), it’s just an astonishing, otherworldly experience.

I’m told that if it does not work for you, it’s one of the dullest films ever made, but I’m lucky that that’s never been a problem for me. I was hooked the first time I channel surfed into the mid-movie grid race sequence.