TravisMc & The SVS Gang

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Kenny Booth, Jan 22, 2003.

  1. Kenny Booth

    Kenny Booth Stunt Coordinator

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    I bought an SVS sub about a year ago and at first I was not all that impressed. I made the mistake of saying so on this forum and I was punched, kicked, shot, stabbed, run over, insulted, and ridiculed by almost everyone except---Ron & Tom.
    The reason I was not all that impressed is because of all of your post about SVS. I had expectations that no sub in the world could fill. So just maybe Travis's disappointment is a result of this forum. I swear I think some of you guys have sex with your sub.
    My advice would to deal with Tom & Ron direct (e-mail) and not on this forum.
    I did and I recommend SVS 100%
     
  2. James Bergeron

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    Well said Kenny, I will agree with you!

    I have a Velodyne CHT-15 and if you go by what SOME (not all) say on this forum, the SVS subs will walk all over it and there will be no contest etc etc. So you would think WOW it must really rock. But I then demoed a pair of 25-30's or whatever the model is, yes 2 and well they may have been better, it would have taken a lot more listening and comparing side by side to tell. The svs was great, but it doesn't walk all over everything. It walks all over a lot of subs for sure. But there are other subs that perform very well. The Servo-15 for example is great, and the HSU VTF3 as well. All around the same price.
     
  3. TravisMc

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    Ahh, someone finally understands.

    As impressionable as I am, When people made the comments about the SVS that they did, it blew my mind....

    I suppose I should learn that lesson now, Never base a decision like this on anyone else's opinion, because, it's their opinion......

    Don't get me wrong, the SVS grows on my more and more, but It is not the Sub killing machine everyone makes it out to be, this, is for sure...

    However, Im looking forward to that B4...
     
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    I read lots and lots of reviews of the SVS before I bought one. I kept thinking to myself "its gonna be good, but it can't be THIS good" This is my first real sub, and it met my expectations fully. I always knew in the back of my mind though that a lot of whats on here is hype, and to take it with a grain of salt.

    Murdock
    20-39PC+ Owner (1 week tomorrow)
     
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    I think the problem with TravisMC's thread was the tone in which it was written. It completely insulted SVS, after which we find out that he was not able to set it up correctly. It was an immature way to approach the problems he was having.

    I have seen many posts in this forum where people state that they prefer other subs over SVS. The vast majority of these posts are treated with respect. When someone comes in and makes insulting and misinformed comments, people will get defensive.

    It became clear in TravisMC's thread that he did not know how to properly set up the sub. That is fine. Beginners in HT should be encouraged to come here and ask questions. They should not come here and make baseless and insulting remarks about products that they do not know how to properly use.

    That said...
    There is somewhat of a double standard here. TravisMC's post was put down quite a bit. A similar post about Bose would be applauded, even if they werent setup correctly.
     
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    "I swear I think some of you guys have sex with your sub."

    Ah HA HA HA HA HA HA [​IMG]
     
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    I agree with Adam. Travis post was uncalled for. Everyone was defending SVS because he publicly insulted the company.


    Actually the lesson you should have learned is know what the heck you are talking about before you post a thread like you did.
    Think next time before you type and please choose your words carefully.
    A more appropriate thread should have been like this:
    Newbie here, My SVS sub is not as loud as I want it to be. Please help me out. Is what I am expecting asking too much?

    Good luck with the rest of your system.
     
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    Apples, oranges and orangutangs...that is what is being discussed here. Do some research and anyone will find that SVS subwoofers put out more db than just about any commercially available home subwoofer available. And they sound good to boot. You simply CANNOT compare the kind of levels you get in a car to what you get in your home. It's quite simple really...SPL = Sound Pressure Level. It is easier to pressurize a smaller space...period. Feel free to prove me right. Take that sub that is pounding out 150db in your car and put it in your living room and see what happens. Be sure to calibrate first and have your SPL meter handy.

    Another invalid comparison:

     
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  11. Dan Hine

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    I see what you mean now, Adam. Give some reasoning about why such a product is bad...yeah, makes sense. Sorry for the confusion.
     
  12. Brett DiMichele

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    Well fellas Technicaly he was right.. SVS Subs DO SUCK
    (when the cone moves inward...) and they BLOW (when the
    cone moves outward..)

    And if we *REALLY* want to split hairs.. It doesn't suck
    but rather air is pushed inward when the outward air pressure
    is lowered...


    Err sumptin like that... [​IMG]

    Travis Proved to me what kind of person he is by his posts
    and it's going to be HARD for him to shun off his new found
    rep amongst the likes of the knowledgeable (Like Dan....)
     
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  14. Brett DiMichele

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    Dan,

    There is more than a slight difference between me and Travis.

    I knew the MB-Q Driver wouldn't work (the sims said it would
    not work and you all reinforced that) But I had altierior
    motives for purchasing the driver anyway.

    I knew I could easily resell that driver to some inexperianced
    car audio newb who would much rather have a $90.00 name brand
    speaker rather than something like a Volfenhaggie..

    I resold the driver and made money.... But I never not once
    took the advice of the elders as "wrong" It just didn't
    matter because I had other plans [​IMG]

    I will agree though I had NO idea you could buy drivers like
    the AV-12 as affordably as what you can.. That was a learning
    experiance because I have done numerous car audio installs
    and always used "car audio" drivers and you DO pay for the
    flash.....The Logos.. Etc..

    But I have known what T/S Parameters mean, for a decade or
    more, I never guessed at box construction. So there is nothing
    in common between what I did, and what Travis is doing!

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Brett DiMichele

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    Dan,

    We can only hope right?

    And as far as knowledge is concerned.... I just wish I
    could do a Vulcan Mind Meld with ThomasW my god would it
    be so amazing to know what he knows.. And yes Mark Seaton
    and many, many others!

    The difference is the willingness to learn. I love to learn
    and when I am wrong, I am wrong. I won't defend my poor
    choices to the 9th degree [​IMG]
     
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  20. Brett DiMichele

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    Bill,

    YES he is entitled to his opinion I agree.. But he said the
    sub SUCKS well I don't even own one and I KNOW that is not
    true. He doesn't even know how to set the freaking thing up!

    He doesn't know how to properly wire things, he doesn't
    read manuals, he acts like he thinks he knows what he is
    talking about, but he does not..

    He comes over to the DIY forum and starts talking about how
    there is no home audio sub that can compete with an Audio-Bahn
    Sub... Why? We asked.. He can't say because he doesn't KNOW..

    Instead his rebuttle was "Well I mean c'mon it can handle
    like a BILLION WATTS!" (Loosely quoted, using a Dr.Evil Voice)

    I don't care if he wasn't happy with the "performance" of
    the SVS that's one thing... But atleast CALIBRATE the
    whole system before passing judgement..

    He just doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't seem willing
    to listen to anyone who tries to reason with him.

    If he doesn't like what I have to say then tough it's my
    opinion (three can play that game..)
     

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