Toshiba 5700 DVD-Audio noise

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  1. Mike_G

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    Hi all,
    I picked up a Toshiba 5700 for $279 yesterday. It's replacing my JVC XV-D723 which I didn't like much, but was the only affordable DVD-Audio player a year ago. Anyway, I'm using the Blue Man Group "Audio" DVD-Audio disc, I have the audio set to "Bitstream" and my Denon 5800 set to EXT-IN so that I'll get the audio from the 6-channel analog. This worked fine on the JVC - the DVD-Audio always went out the 6 analog lines regardless of how the JVC's output was set (bitstream/analog). With the Toshiba, I get this digital noise on the front-right channel for the first 30 seconds or so of track 1, and when the music gets louder, the digital "noise" goes away. If I set the output to "6 Channel Analog", it plays perfectly. Is this right??? I found this article here on the forum with no followup. Can anyone help? Thanks.
    Mike
     
  2. Paul Clarke

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    Yeah, that was ONE of the problems a number of people had with the 4700/5700. You have to select internally every time you go from one mode to the other. They even give you separate analogs along with the 6 channel. What the heck gives? I sent it back and got a JVC 70BK (my original choice---4700 was a test flyer)...Never looked back. If you've gone into the menu and made the proper choices and you're still getting the noise---send it back. If you only get the sound when the menu selection isn't right, get used to it. It doesn't go away.
     
  3. Wes Stover

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    Paul,

    From what I read in your post you think that DVD Audio can be decoded from the bitstream. It can't. Not the multichannel. That goes for all models of DVD Audio/Video players.
     
  4. Paul Clarke

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    Sorry for the imprecision. No, not from the bitstream...that wasn't what I was referring to in setup. I was speaking about the fact that the Tosh doesn't auto recognize the input. In the Tosh you HAVE to select 6 channel analog (or something similar, it's been a few months). In the JVC this is not necessary. This is because the JVC has the required recognition built in and the Tosh by offering a separate analog for stereo makes this necessary. Sometimes an extra feature just doesn't need to be there...but that's just me.

    You're right in that I should have been more to the point about Mike's post. He did say 'bitstream' but I assume he already figured out that no DVD-A through the digital.
     
  5. Wes Stover

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    Paul,
    So the auto recognition. How does it work?
    When a DVD Video is placed in the player you can have the default output be bitstream, and when a DVD Audio disc is placed in the player the default output becomes the analog 6 output? Just curious [​IMG]
     
  6. Paul Clarke

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    No, I never use bitstream. The JVC has only the 6 channel analog for analog. You use the same front L-R for stereo with two cables or DVD-A with six. I use DD/PCM setting almost exclusively.
    Somehow [​IMG] the JVC is able to recognize the difference between the two and miraculously [​IMG] deliver the proper signal without any further instruction from me, all from the same outputs! :b Gee, you think Toshiba might license this 'miracle technology' from JVC? [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    OK, enough sarcasm. The reason I do not use bitstream is due to the fact that the sound, even in stereo, is superior with analog in my setup, even after upgrading to H/K 510.
    I refer people to Gavin Stokes review on the 4700 over at Consumerreview.com. It was one of the earlier ones, along with mine. He has said, with greater precision than I ever could, what is wrong with the audio of the 4700 (and the 5700-I assume). A reconstituted version of the review is also available on Epinions.com. As to the video, bug or not, I still consider it to be an excellent player. So much so that I used it's standard picture to set my JVC 70BK user 1 setting to match when I had them both for trial. But the lack of true reverse/still and the current jumpy implementation is ludicrous on such a fine player. [​IMG] The remote is a whole other thread. [​IMG]
    Sorry for being obtuse. Sometimes I just can't get my brain to function.[​IMG]
     
  7. Ed St. Clair

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    On the Tosh, select DVD-A over Dolby Digital. And the player will select the DVD-A, and therefore the analog 6 channel output, track every time.
    At least on my 5700 [​IMG]
     

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