Too bad about Denon and Sony

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  1. RichardMA

    RichardMA Second Unit

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    They have bailed out of the surround preamp market.

    Receivers only from now on. Double-bad because the

    Sony TA-E9000ES "could" have been upgraded to 6-7.1

    and Denon's AVR-5803 has a preamp section that would have

    been a very logical extension of their slightly

    better built AVP-8000 surround preamp.

    Now, we basically end up with superb preamps coupled to

    "satisfactory" power amps. This is no negative reflection on the Sony or Denon receivers, since they do what they can

    given space and weight limitations in receivers.
     
  2. David Judah

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    Where did you hear about Denon bailing out? In March, Jeff Talmadge Product Manager of Denon, mentioned on the AVS Forum that they were working on several and would show them late this year or early next year.

    DJ
     
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    Richard, did you actually read somewhere that Sony will not replace the 'E9000ES, or are you speculating as much since the 'E9000ES is an old model and hasn't been replaced yet?
     
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    Sony will be introducing their new pre amp soon according to what I've seen posted around on the Sony user forums. There's talk that someone saw a prototype so it might not be that far away. And as far as I know the TA-E9000ES is not physically capable of 6.1...it can now do a matrixed 6.1 mode but not 6 discrete channels
     
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  6. RichardMA

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    from Kevin;

    I have heard relatively recently that Sony killed the rumored TA-E10ES...

    I've been told the same thing regarding Sony.

    I also observe Denon has deleted (some time ago)

    the inexpensive 2000 DD processor and the higher priced

    AVP-8000 unit. I like their products (I had an 8000)

    products very much, but don't want to go back to

    receivers, but it's clear Denon's AVR-5803 is the most

    "advanced" preamp section going, from what I've seen.

    -Rich
     
  7. David Judah

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    Go to AVS and do a search for DenonJeff in the Special Guests section. He was talking about several completely new products in development, not discontinued existing products. So unless Denon changed their mind in the last two months, there should be some pre/pros to look foward to.

    DJ
     
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    Alex Yang Stunt Coordinator

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    Richard,
    You are absolutely correct DENON has not had a pre/pro for quite a while, BUT about TWO months ago, Jeff Talmadge of Product Manager of Denon, claims that they are working on a Pre/pro to be release either year-end 2002 or early 2003...
    This was separately confirmed again earlier this month by one of our users who contact DENON (Jeff Talmadge???!?) directly and was told on the phone the same thing... [​IMG]
    So while the DENON AV-R5803 is the Cream of the crop for DENON (presently) things might be different year end...
    Sorry don't know anything about SONY...
    -Alex
     
  9. RichardMA

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    That is good news about the Denon processor.

    It's also nice that Denon is upfront about possible

    product releases, unlike the annoyingly secretive Sony.
     
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    Me, myself, and I: I'd like to see some competition for Outlaw and Rotel from more than one of (!) Sony, Denon, Yamaha, Pioneer, Onkyo, Marantz, etc.
    The Sherwood is coming, but hopefully they fix some of the problems that the receiver had...
    For now, I've settled on the Outlaw, but in spite of "upgradeitis" and all the positive comments [​IMG], I've *vowed* to myself not to order one until Sept. That way, 1) I'll get hardware/software "rev 2.0" in case there are any updates along the way, and, 2) Gives the Japanese manufacturers time to put something out...
    Had a Yamaha Dolby Digital (before DTS!) receiver once that I absolutely loved. Even if they announced *today* that they'd have a pre/pro, but not until next summer, I'd still wait. [​IMG]
     

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