Thoughts on an Open Box Panasonic CT-34WX50

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  1. William_K_F

    William_K_F Agent

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    Hello,

    I am considering buying an open box Panasonic CT-34WX50

    from Good Guys who are discontinuing their panasonic

    line.

    Any thoughts on whether getting on Open Box item with

    some cosmetic damage to the set is worth it?

    I expect a total price around $1,900, but am waiting to hear

    back for certain. This compares to new item lowest total

    price of around $2,300. I also would consider a Toshiba

    new 34HF81 for a total of around $2,100 (Only negaative I

    hear about the Toshiba is some distortion at edge of the

    screen.)

    My main concern is on whether the use of a set as

    a display item would siginificantly reduce it's life

    expectancy or potentially damage it due to running

    with brightness or contrast set too high. Would the

    kinds of things that might get damaged be covered under

    a warranty, or extended warranty?

    What do you think? Have other's had experience with

    Open Box items of this type?

    Thanks.

    -William
     
  2. MichaelGomez

    MichaelGomez Stunt Coordinator

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    Does it really have cosmetic damage.

    A lot of open box items are things that people buy and then return because they didn't like it, too expensive, wouldn't fit the entertainment center, etc.

    If it is just scratches on the cabinet who cares.

    Mike
     
  3. William_K_F

    William_K_F Agent

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    But what if it were a floor demo model, as they

    assert, and is likely being this is the very

    last one they have, now that they are discontinuing

    the Panasonic line? What do you think of damage

    that might have been caused by its use on the

    floor? Should I be concerned? I don't care about

    minor scratches.
     
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    (back of the envelope calculation, for floor model usage)
    Floor model on display for six months, always on during store hours:
    12 hrs/day * 30 days/month * 6 months ~= ...
    ... ~= 2200 hrs
    Consider home use, 4 hrs / day:
    2200 hrs / 4 hrs/day = 550 days ~= 1.5 years
    Very roughly, this TV has seen one or two years of usage. Would you buy this TV from someone, two years old, for the price you're being offered? That is, is the discount large enough to reflect that amount of usage?
    Feel free to use your own values to get a better estimate [​IMG]
     
  5. William_K_F

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    Thanks,
    That sounds like a reasonable calculation.
    What is the expected life of a TV of this sort?
    I seem to recall a number of around 30,000 hours
    of use, is that accurate?
    If it were, the TV would be about 7% used up, leaving
    a life of about 19 years if we assume 4 hrs a day
    365 days a year. [​IMG]
    Does the TV degrade performance over the 30,000 hours
    or does it get solid performance the whole way through?
    If the performance curve over time is reasonablely flat
    and the 30,000 hr life expactancy is accurate, it would
    seem getting a floor model at about a 17% discount is
    a good deal considering it is about 7% used up.
    Thanks for everyones help!
    -William
     
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    You'll probably buy a new TV before this one gives out, but if it were me, I wouldn't buy it if it was a demo. Open box yes, demo no. The demo's buttons fall off, get scratched up, etc...
     
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    My limited experience is that a tube TV can have a good ten years lifetime. But it will also suffer mechanical problems: picture discoloration, aux inputs fail, slow warmup, and so on. But those may not be significant, or may not happen until much later.

    Currently, I'm using a more-than five year old 27" TV (Fisher), that is now third-hand from my brother-in-law. It's got some problems, but basically it works very well.

    But, as someone pointed out, some display models get a lot of use/abuse from people punching buttons. But if the buttons don't seem particularly loose or wiggly, then that's a good sign.
     
  8. William_K_F

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    Thanks for all the continued info.
    Sounds like the analysis is promising if the buttons
    aren't loose, etc.
    That leaves me with the 3:2 rollback issue. As I understand
    it the Panasonic, being older, doesn't have the 3:2 rollback
    line doubler, whereas the Toshiba has it, but the Toshiba
    tube is considered somewhat inferior due to distortions at
    the edge of the screen.
    Am I correct, that were I to get a progressive DVD player,
    the 3:2 rollback line doubler becomes a moot point?
    That being the case I am inclined towards the Panasonic
    over the Toshiba since I can get a progressive DVD player
    in the future to overcome that limitation, whereas the
    screen distortion would be unavoidable.
    Sure is a complex issue! [​IMG]
     
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    From what I understand, this model is being discontinued by Panasonic. Check the panasonic web site, look for news releases. A few hundred more dollars, with a warranty, for a brand new tube might be worth it. Just a thought.
     

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