The X Files is coming back! (1 Viewer)

[TravisR]

Gillian Anderson says she will retire the character of Dana Scully after the newest X-Files series.

http://screenrant.com/gillian-anderson-done-x-files-season-11/

If Anderson is really done (and I think it's a really big IF when you think of the money they'll offer her and once she has some time away from the character to miss it) then I hope this season's finale can operate as a definitive ending for the series.

 

[Carabimero]

This looks so much better than the last season.

 

[TravisR]

Season Eleven starts on Wednesday, January 3 at 8 PM!

http://tvline.com/2017/11/15/the-x-files-season-11-premiere-date-poster-fox/

 

[gadgtfreek]

Great!

 

[TravisR]

Since I'm guessing most people don't remember, it's worth reminding everyone that The X-Files starts up again on Wednesday at 8 PM.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I'm hoping to rewatch the last revival to prepare for this one.

As I recall, the new mythology episodes suggested that everything we saw in the original series and original films was a hoax - even though we witnessed objective POV scenes of things like the black oil during the ice age.

Wondering how the new season is going to try to reconcile that, if at all.

 

[B-ROLL]

I'm hoping to rewatch the last revival to prepare for this one.

As I recall, the new mythology episodes suggested that everything we saw in the original series and original films was a hoax - even though we witnessed objective POV scenes of things like the black oil during the ice age.

Wondering how the new season is going to try to reconcile that, if at all.

Well ... The TRUTH is out there !

 

[TravisR]

I'm hoping to rewatch the last revival to prepare for this one.

As I recall, the new mythology episodes suggested that everything we saw in the original series and original films was a hoax - even though we witnessed objective POV scenes of things like the black oil during the ice age.

Wondering how the new season is going to try to reconcile that, if at all.

Maybe I've just crossed the line into psycho fan but even if they confirm that everything before was fake, I refuse to acknowledge that idea. Seriously though, you're right that the show has depicted things as having definitively happened so having the CSM be lying about that lie makes more sense than that it was all a lie.

 

[SamT]

So they are Last Jeding the past? ... yes it's a verb!

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Maybe I've just crossed the line into psycho fan but even if they confirm that everything before was fake, I refuse to acknowledge that idea. Seriously though, you're right that the show has depicted things as having definitively happened so having the CSM be lying about that lie makes more sense than that it was all a lie.

I don't think you went psycho

I was very excited for the show to return when it did a couple years ago, especially because the mythology episodes had always been my favorites. I was so disappointed by what they did. There's plenty in the mythology that's murky, or that's up for interpretation, or that we've come to believe by hearing it from untrustworthy sources.

But in The X-Files, the objective POV has always been trustworthy - the show and films have never, in the past, shown us a perspective of something that turned out to be completely and utterly false. So I can accept that not every single thing that we were verbally told, especially if it was someone telling something to Mulder, is entirely true.

What I have a problem with is them saying stuff that we actually witnessed was a hoax. How could black oil in the ice age be a hoax when the film and show literally show us the oil in that time period?

Did Chris Carter forget he actually showed us this stuff?

 

[TravisR]

I don't think you went psycho

I was very excited for the show to return when it did a couple years ago, especially because the mythology episodes had always been my favorites. I was so disappointed by what they did. There's plenty in the mythology that's murky, or that's up for interpretation, or that we've come to believe by hearing it from untrustworthy sources.

But in The X-Files, the objective POV has always been trustworthy - the show and films have never, in the past, shown us a perspective of something that turned out to be completely and utterly false. So I can accept that not every single thing that we were verbally told, especially if it was someone telling something to Mulder, is entirely true.

What I have a problem with is them saying stuff that we actually witnessed was a hoax. How could black oil in the ice age be a hoax when the film and show literally show us the oil in that time period?

Did Chris Carter forget he actually showed us this stuff?

I'm guessing it was ignored in an effort to tell the mainstream audience that they didn't need to remember all the stuff from 15 or 20 years ago and that not having to worry about the mythology was probably easier on the writers too. Both of those ideas are understandable (especially trying to make it accessible to the audience) but they should just do what they did in the original series and do some stuff that doesn't contradict what came before but also has no real connection to it either. Like I said, even if they confirm it, I'm ignoring it.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I'm guessing it was ignored in an effort to tell the mainstream audience that they didn't need to remember all the stuff from 15 or 20 years ago and that not having to worry about the mythology was probably easier on the writers too. Like I said, even if they confirm it, I'm ignoring it.

As well you should! I am probably taking this way too personally, but I don't like when movies and shows treat me like I'm an idiot. If you're a show with a continuing storyline, you have to own your story, even the parts that didn't land as you had hoped. If you showed it to me and told me it happened, you can't just discard it when it becomes inconvenient.

My enthusiasm for this new season is severely diminished because of that previous season's shenanigans.

 

[Hollywoodaholic]

I'm just hoping David Ducovny doesn't walk through it looking bored to death.

 

[Sean Bryan]

I'm hoping to rewatch the last revival to prepare for this one.

As I recall, the new mythology episodes suggested that everything we saw in the original series and original films was a hoax - even though we witnessed objective POV scenes of things like the black oil during the ice age.

Wondering how the new season is going to try to reconcile that, if at all.

Maybe I’m remembering it wrong, but I thought what was said (or implied) was that everything was based on experimentation from REAL alien DNA or tissue and tech that the government conspirators had access to from some real crash or encounter at some point in the past. The “hoax” part was that the stuff we were seeing in the original show was all orchestrated by human conspirators using that real alien DNA and tech. As I said, I could be remembering it wrong. And for the record, I am not a fan s turn. I hope they decide to roll some of that back in some way.

 

[Greg_S_H]

but they should just do what they did in the original series and do some stuff that doesn't contradict what came before but also has no real connection to it either. Like I said, even if they confirm it, I'm ignoring it.

That's what I've always said when they want to reboot comic book universes because "too much continuity." The writer should adhere to that continuity, but the reader shouldn't have to worry about it if it's done right. If a reader ever needs to know that Dr. Octopus called himself the Master Planner and had an underwater base, just give a brief line or two of dialogue to that end and proceed with the story. Now, that's harder for Marvel since guys like Mark Gruenwald--who was a walking encyclopedia of Marvel history--are gone, but they should have handbooks, bibles, and really smart editors to make sure they don't make too many contradictions. And, again, you just don't bring things up unless germane to the story and then with a quick refresher right then and there for the reader.

 

[Hollywoodaholic]

"Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" was on again last night in local syndication; what a fantastic episode. He tells Sculley she's not going to die, and tells Mulder that he knows how he dies. I'm wondering if the episode was tightened for syndication because doesn't he tell Mulder later HOW he will die? I forget, but didn't it have something to do with his pornography addiction?

Anyway, just a wonderful episode and I also enjoyed the HD 16x9 presentation, which, to my mind, only enhanced the experience. If we get anything close to this with the next ten episodes, I will be thrilled.

 

[TravisR]

"Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" was on again last night in local syndication; what a fantastic episode. He tells Sculley she's not going to die, and tells Mulder that he knows how he dies. I'm wondering if the episode was tightened for syndication because doesn't he tell Mulder later HOW he will die? I forget, but didn't it have something to do with his pornography addiction?

It's been a while since I've seen that episode but I believe Bruckman tells Mulder that he can't think of a more undignified way to die than autoerotic asphyxiation. Mulder asks why he's telling him that and Bruckman says to forget it and that it's none of his (Bruckman's) business.

 

[Hollywoodaholic]

Ah, yes, that was it, the ol' autoerotic asphyxiation. Only this particular episode could get away with a throwaway dark joke like that (and in the shadow of Michael Hutchence).

 

[Malcolm R]

That's another reason I prefer the monster-of-the-week episodes. You don't have to worry about all that pesky continuity, and whether or not the writers contradict themselves in later episodes.

Just write a good 42-minute story, and be done with it.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

That's another reason I prefer the monster-of-the-week episodes. You don't have to worry about all that pesky continuity, and whether or not the writers contradict themselves in later episodes.

Just write a good 42-minute story, and be done with it.

There's nothing wrong with a great stand-alone episode.

The only point I'd bring up in response to that is sometimes, a series will do an episode or episodes on an event, where the implications of that episode are so great that for the next episode to continue as if it never happened shortchanges the audience and the characters.

As someone who loved the mythology of the X-Files when it was originally on, this was a sticking point to me. They'd do a mythology episode a few times a year, and then never acknowledge them in their regular episodes. I don't expect every moment of every episode to be about it, but it would be a little frustrating to have an episode where, for instance, Scully absolutely, definitely, without a shadow of a doubt, saw something that was alien or supernatural, and then in the following episode would be back to denying even the possibility of anything alien or supernatural. It was frustrating as a viewer because I just saw you saw that thing last week.

I think that was the biggest weakness of the original run, that Scully and other characters would encounter obviously unnatural phenomena, come to accept it as such, and then be in denial about the existence of it in the following episode.