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I'm surprise by all of the complaints in this thread because yesterday afternoon after seeing the Amazon preorder link, I thought this release would be met with happiness. I guess I was wrong! By the way, I immediately preordered it on Thursday.

If this was done right, there would be utter joy in all circles. Like, release of the year kind of joy. But if the current information is correct, one is only left scratching their head.

The biggest issue is just 100 shorts when they made 190 at Columbia. You do something right or you don't do it at all, and the only right answer here is including all 190. Especially at these prices.

It makes zero sense to just include 100 and omit nearly that many. Less than zero, honestly.

And who picked the 100, and why? Were titles picked out of a hat by some 20-something who doesn't even know who the Stooges are? Knowing Sony, I wouldn't be surprised.

What this should include, at a bare minimum: The 190 shorts, the features listed on Amazon, and the solo shorts.

What it should also include: Captain Hates the Sea (Stooges cameo) and Start Cheering (one of their better guest roles in a feature). Captain has been available on an MOD DVD, Start Cheering has mysteriously never seen the light of day on home video.

And if you want to get really adventurous, include other Stooge-related Columbia films like Dangerous Business (Shemp in support) that have been buried in the vaults for decades.

I can say Stooge fans have been waiting for YEARS for the shorts to get on Blu-ray but this current set was obviously assembled by a real knucklehead.

If current information is correct, this set's a bust.
 

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If this was done right, there would be utter joy in all circles. Like, release of the year kind of joy. But if the current information is correct, one is only left scratching their head.

The biggest issue is just 100 shorts when they made 190 at Columbia. You do something right or you don't do it at all, and the only right answer here is including all 190. Especially at these prices.

It makes zero sense to just include 100 and omit nearly that many. Less than zero, honestly.

And who picked the 100, and why? Were titles picked out of a hat by some 20-something who doesn't even know who the Stooges are? Knowing Sony, I wouldn't be surprised.

What this should include, at a bare minimum: The 190 shorts, the features listed on Amazon, and the solo shorts.

What it should also include: Captain Hates the Sea (Stooges cameo) and Start Cheering (one of their better guest roles in a feature). Captain has been available on an MOD DVD, Start Cheering has mysteriously never seen the light of day on home video.

And if you want to get really adventurous, include other Stooge-related Columbia films like Dangerous Business (Shemp in support) that have been buried in the vaults for decades.

I can say Stooge fans have been waiting for YEARS for the shorts to get on Blu-ray but this current set was obviously assembled by a real knucklehead.
Then I guess you're not purchasing it?
 

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I'm wondering if Sony made a mistake in the press release because there's zero chance the solo shorts and feature films would need eight entire Blu-rays. Even the chronological DVD sets comfortably fit 8-10 shorts per disc, usually below three hours of content per DVD-9. The eight chronological sets plus the "Rare Treasures" set with two features and the 28 solo shorts (plus the cartoons) used a combined 20 DVD-9s.

15 BD-50s would comfortably fit the 190 shorts, with the remaining five also comfortably fitting the seven features and solo shorts.
 

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You do something right or you don't do it at all, and the only right answer here is including all 190.

In other words, let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Here we have an initial press release no doubt made to get people excited at the prospect of the Stooges finally being released in HD, and people seem to be piling on with complaints about why it's not everything they could possibly want or imagine.

Maybe wait until more details are known before screaming that the sky is falling,
 

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I'm wondering if Sony made a mistake in the press release because there's zero chance the solo shorts and feature films would need eight entire Blu-rays. Even the chronological DVD sets comfortably fit 8-10 shorts per disc, usually below three hours of content per DVD-9. The eight chronological sets plus the "Rare Treasures" set with two features and the 28 solo shorts (plus the cartoons) used a combined 20 DVD-9s.

15 BD-50s would comfortably fit the 190 shorts, with the remaining five also comfortably fitting the seven features and solo shorts.
I've been wondering the same thing with 20 Blu-ray discs.
 

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I'm wondering if Sony made a mistake in the press release because there's zero chance the solo shorts and feature films would need eight entire Blu-rays. Even the chronological DVD sets comfortably fit 8-10 shorts per disc, usually below three hours of content per DVD-9. The eight chronological sets plus the "Rare Treasures" set with two features and the 28 solo shorts (plus the cartoons) used a combined 20 DVD-9s.

15 BD-50s would comfortably fit the 190 shorts, with the remaining five also comfortably fitting the seven features and solo shorts.

For what it’s worth, the 2012 Ultimate Collection had a listed run time of 64 hours.

This upcoming set has one of 29 hours, per Amazon listing.
 

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If ONE person can compile questions you would like to ask Sony about this upcoming set, I would be happy to attempt to contact their PR department to see if we can get some clarification.

EDIT: NEVER MIND. I WAS ABLE TO COMPILE CONCERNS AND IN THE PROCESS OF CONTACTING SONY
 
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If this was done right, there would be utter joy in all circles. Like, release of the year kind of joy. But if the current information is correct, one is only left scratching their head.

The biggest issue is just 100 shorts when they made 190 at Columbia. You do something right or you don't do it at all, and the only right answer here is including all 190. Especially at these prices.

It makes zero sense to just include 100 and omit nearly that many. Less than zero, honestly.

And who picked the 100, and why? Were titles picked out of a hat by some 20-something who doesn't even know who the Stooges are? Knowing Sony, I wouldn't be surprised.

What this should include, at a bare minimum: The 190 shorts, the features listed on Amazon, and the solo shorts.

What it should also include: Captain Hates the Sea (Stooges cameo) and Start Cheering (one of their better guest roles in a feature). Captain has been available on an MOD DVD, Start Cheering has mysteriously never seen the light of day on home video.

And if you want to get really adventurous, include other Stooge-related Columbia films like Dangerous Business (Shemp in support) that have been buried in the vaults for decades.

I can say Stooge fans have been waiting for YEARS for the shorts to get on Blu-ray but this current set was obviously assembled by a real knucklehead.

If current information is correct, this set's a bust.

It’s like you’re reading my mind. What had the potential to be the biggest/best announcement of the year turns out to be the biggest disappointment/missed opportunity of the year.

I’d be okay if it had to be divided into 2 or 3 volumes if it was considered too cost prohibitive to release one collection with all 190 shorts. Perhaps spread out all of the solo Shemp, Besser and DeRita shorts among the multiple volumes as well. But I’ve never been a fan of Best-Of compilations, and while this may be the ultimate Best-Of, barring any additional information or clarifications/updates, I think I will have to pass.

(And when it comes to the 2000 biopic, they should be offering to pay me to let that thing take up any of my shelf space. But that would still be tolerable if they were offering all of the shorts.) 🙂
 

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In other words, let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Here we have an initial press release no doubt made to get people excited at the prospect of the Stooges finally being released in HD, and people seem to be piling on with complaints about why it's not everything they could possibly want or imagine.

Maybe wait until more details are known before screaming that the sky is falling,
Patience? Stooge fans??

We waited so long for the complete sets while wading through batches of "Best Of's", themed sets and the much bemoaned "Funnier In Color" compilations.

These are the Golden Years of physical media (debatable, but certainly waning) and this may be the last opportunity to revisit these well-loved films on any disc-based platform. I'll be the Veruca Salt and say I want the whole collection looking and sounding as fine (Howard and Fine!) as possible, and now if not sooner!

If I really wanted to go full-on sky-is-falling complaining, I'd ask, "Why not in 4k? We've waited this long for a High Def release.."
 

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The Ultimate Collection is 20 discs (17 for the shorts and 3 for the "Treasures from the Vault" set which includes 2 of their films).

The BR set is also 20 discs which, based on the OP image, appears to be 12 for the shorts and 8 for the movies/extras. That image appears to show 8 discs for the Curly years - the DVDs have 10 for Curly. 4 discs for the Shemp years - the DVDs have 7 for Shemp. And apparently 8(?!) discs for the 7 movies and bonus stuff. The movies are fairly short (averaging ~90 minutes each) and putting 2 per disc is quite reasonable. That means you really only need 4 discs for the movies *and* the solo shorts with Shemp, Besser, and DeRita, the cartoons, and the "documentary."

If that assumption on the discs is correct that leaves more than enough discs for all of the shorts to be present. I hope that's the case as I like and want all of them in HD in one package.

Anyway... I've pre-ordered a copy and if it turns out to be a truncated release I can always cancel.
 

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It’s like you’re reading my mind. What had the potential to be the biggest/best announcement of the year turns out to be the biggest disappointment/missed opportunity of the year.

I’d be okay if it had to be divided into 2 or 3 volumes if it was considered too cost prohibitive to release one collection with all 190 shorts. Perhaps spread out all of the solo Shemp, Besser and DeRita shorts among the multiple volumes as well. But I’ve never been a fan of Best-Of compilations, and while this may be the ultimate Best-Of, barring any additional information or clarifications/updates, I think I will have to pass.

(And when it comes to the 2000 biopic, they should be offering to pay me to let that thing take up any of my shelf space. But that would still be tolerable if they were offering all of the shorts.) 🙂
I'll go so far as to say the exact same about the shorts with Besser, the solo Besser and DeRita shorts, and the cartoons. I watched all of that exactly once when I purchased the DVDs. I've watched the rest multiple times - and the Shemp shorts are very good - never skipping even one until Besser shows up. I've disliked Besser ever since I first saw him in a Stooges short as a kid.

I own copies of all the movies in spite of not caring for the ones with DeRita that much (though he *is* a step up from Besser). They, too, get very rare viewings (I saw most in the theater as a kid - didn't care much for them then either but it was the Stooges so...). The only two that get any kind of regular viewing are Rockin' In the Rockies with Curley and Gold Raiders with Shemp. Time Out for Rhythm is OK but it's not a Stooges film as they're more supporting characters in rather minor roles.
 

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Did you miss the second bullet point in the announcement?

The set also includes over 20 additional shorts with Shemp Howard, Joe Besser and Joe DeRita, plus cartoons and The Three Stooges Scrapbook!

Hopefully, if this sells well they'll release a second set with the rest of the shorts.



Yes, there were 190 total Columbia shorts: 97 with Curly, 77 with Shemp, and 16 with Joe Besser.

And this set has all seven of the Columbia feature films with Moe, Larry, and Joe DeRita. The two Mill Creek triple-feature BDs only had six of them (they were missing The Three Stooges in Orbit).
I'm talking about including most, if not all, the Shemp, Joe and DeRita shorts to make this set truly worthwhile, IN ADDITION to including ALL 190 shorts they made, including the TV pilot "Jerk of All Trades" for this become a sensational Blu-Ray set, so yes, I did read the points you elaborated upon, but still hoping they would be able to include again, MOST, if not all, the solo shorts of the mentioned Stooges such as Shemp and Besser and DeRita ones AND MAYBE, include the Stooges shorts with Ted Healy in them as well and truly make this an outstanding Blu-Ray compilation set.
 
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I'm talking about including most, if not all, the Shemp, Joe and DeRita shorts to make this set truly worthwhile, IN ADDITION to including ALL 190 shorts they made, including the TV pilot "Jerk of All Trades" for this become a sensational Blu-Ray set, so yes, I did read the points you elaborated upon, but still hoping they would be able to include again, MOST, if not all, the solo shorts of the mentioned Stooges such as Shemp and Besser and DeRita ones AND MAYBE, include the Stooges shorts with Ted Healy in them as well and truly make this an outstanding Blu-Ray compilation set.

Including the Ted Healy shorts would require them to license those shorts from Warner, so not likely. Just as it would be unlikely for them to license the feature films Soup to Nuts and Snow White and the Stooges from Fox (Disney) and Meet the Baron and Dancing Lady from Warner.
 

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