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The disclaimer must be on every new StudioCanal release - It's also before An Inspector Calls and The Conversation. "Historical attitudes that some might find offensive" on these films? It's just a blanket disclaimer, so that no-one can complain. I'm quite sure that this disclaimer will be commonplace on all classic films in the future. Surprised Warner Archive didn't put it in front of The Searchers!
That would’ve pissed off Mark because he’s against those disclaimers.
 

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That would’ve pissed off Mark because he’s against those disclaimers.
I'm willing to wager that Warner Archive or Warner Bros. will put a disclaimer ahead of Gone With The Wind, if they ever get round to releasing that on 4K UHD!
 

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I'm willing to wager that Warner Archive or Warner Bros. will put a disclaimer ahead of Gone With The Wind, if they ever get round to releasing that on 4K UHD!
No question, it should simply be the TCM host, Jacqueline Stewart video segment that she did for the Max stream of Gone With the Wind.
 

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The disclaimer must be on every new StudioCanal release - It's also before An Inspector Calls and The Conversation. "Historical attitudes that some might find offensive" on these films? It's just a blanket disclaimer, so that no-one can complain. I'm quite sure that this disclaimer will be commonplace on all classic films in the future. Surprised Warner Archive didn't put it in front of The Searchers!
It's something Canal have added a couple of years ago (I can't pinpoint when exactly, but I'd say 2021-2022) and is standard practice now. It's indeed a blanket one, so that nobody can sue them because hey, they told viewers beforehand. I'm used to discs having all kinds of opening text panels, from logos to legal texts to whatever, so I can't say I care about those either. If they're what's needed to get movies out and intact, so be it.
 

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That would’ve pissed off Mark because he’s against those disclaimers.
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I am either really insensitive to something in The Third Man, or the disclaimer situation is the less-than-cursory thing I imagine it to be. I was very happy, even as a card-carrying Chickasaw, that The Searchers started right up without anyone admonishing me over offenses for which they'd need a forced-start documentary in order to prepare any audience member.

I am not against context--far from it. I hope people are always inspired to learn from historical films of any era. Or have the option of watching Jacqueline Stewart elucidate some contrast for them! Still, Art needs to be allowed to be self-contained, and even Harry Lime suggests that during the times of The Borgias we got DaVinci. But I don't need a warning on La Giaconda to know rudimentarily that the circumstances of life at the time it was painted were horrible and impossible for most to live through. Or that she was a lucky aristocrat in silks who was bargained in marriage as a teenager--oh, and that's wrong today and was then.

I grew up in Germany and understood every single word of the German spoken in "3rd Man" (which is a great deal to be sure) and was ready to pounce on something that might elude only English-speaking people...maybe something Monika Bleibtreu says in her rants. But I remain perplexed.
 

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A disclaimer statement that pops on for ten seconds before the movie even begins isn't something to be concerned about. I'd rather the rights holders do that to help contextualize a piece of art had been created in a time of different norms instead of it never being released at all. Or stitched and tugged to erase the "offending" material and consigning the original to the vaults to be forever unseen.

Looking right at'cha, Disney.
 

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Having released a film, the 1926 silent Johnstown Flood, I can tell you that we fretted over the disclaimer. It’s very much a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation.

Johnstown occurs in 1889 in a rural area of Pennsylvania, where entertainment was at the local saloon - very much like the old west - and in the film, among other less than stellar acts on stage, is a short bit in blackface. Nothing unusual about that in 1889.

There were suggestions that it might be best to just cut it. As we were fighting to restore and preserve every frame that we could, that was not an option.

We elected to have a disclaimer, for all those viewers who might feel that we believed that performers - of any color, performing in blackface - was a good thing.

It’s not difficult to find - in most any film - something that will offend someone, on even the most arcane basis, that might never be picked up br anyone else.

In Third Man it’s probably the comment about Switzerland and certain clocks, some early examples of which, may have brought about the demise of innocent birds.
 

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Having released a film, the 1926 silent Johnstown Flood, I can tell you that we fretted over the disclaimer. It’s very much a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation.

Johnstown occurs in 1889 in a rural area of Pennsylvania, where entertainment was at the local saloon - very much like the old west - and in the film, among other less than stellar acts on stage, is a short bit in blackface. Nothing unusual about that in 1889.

There were suggestions that it might be best to just cut it. As we were fighting to restore and preserve every frame that we could, that was not an option.

We elected to have a disclaimer, for all those viewers who might feel that we believed that performers - of any color, performing in blackface - was a good thing.

It’s not difficult to find - in most any film - something that will offend someone, on even the most arcane basis, that might never be picked up br anyone else.

In Third Man it’s probably the comment about Switzerland and certain clocks, some early examples of which, may have brought about the demise of innocent birds.
I was much distracted throughout the film and found it difficult to focus on the whole, figuring out what the offenses were; but relieved knowing now that it might pertain to woodland birds. My heart goes out to any woodland birds and if The Academy shows this, look for me with a Woody Woodpecker placat and orientation literature ending with "Enjoy this film...if you can live with yourself."
 

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I was much distracted throughout the film and found it difficult to focus on the whole, figuring out what the offenses were; but relieved knowing now that it might pertain to woodland birds. My heart goes out to any woodland birds and if The Academy shows this, look for me with a Woody Woodpecker placat and orientation literature ending with "Enjoy this film...if you can live with yourself."
Interesting, for me personally I don’t think about the disclaimer hardly at all during the movie’s runtime.
 

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I was much distracted throughout the film and found it difficult to focus on the whole, figuring out what the offenses were; but relieved knowing now that it might pertain to woodland birds. My heart goes out to any woodland birds and if The Academy shows this, look for me with a Woody Woodpecker placat and orientation literature ending with "Enjoy this film...if you can live with yourself."
So do you also spend your time worrying about the other disclaimer studios have to put on releases with commentary tracks about the "opinion of the individuals don't necessarily represent the opinion of the studio?"
 

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So do you also spend your time worrying about the other disclaimer studios have to put on releases with commentary tracks about the "opinion of the individuals don't necessarily represent the opinion of the studio?"
I never "worried" over the hypothetical conditions before...you give me pause, perhaps I should.
 

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I sometimes find it strange starting a movie and first being warned about potential fines and/or jail time. Really sets the mood. :)

The "You Wouldn't Steal a Car" one from the 00s was always odd. Telling you off for downloading a movie when you'd bought a DVD!
 

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The "You Wouldn't Steal a Car" one from the 00s was always odd. Telling you off for downloading a movie when you'd bought a DVD!
This variant was particularly effective:


I’m weighing up buying either the German or French releases of The Third Man UHD - which I believe contain the same disc as the Studio Canal UK release.
 

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I’m weighing up buying either the German or French releases of The Third Man UHD - which I believe contain the same disc as the Studio Canal UK release.
It's the same StudioCanal 4K UHD.
 

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This movie has just recently appeared on my radar. I'm not sure why; I've never seen it, but have heard the title. So it's going to be one of those I'm going into as a blind buy. I suspect I will like it. I've gotten more into these older noir-ish films.

I don't think I need any 4K or UHD or big boxes, or steelbooks on this as of yet, so I'm going to just get the older 2010 Blu-ray release. I found that the film is available for streaming on one of the commercial services and from what I saw, it looked pretty decent to me, so I think I'll be happy with the version I've ordered.
 

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This movie has just recently appeared on my radar. I'm not sure why; I've never seen it, but have heard the title. So it's going to be one of those I'm going into as a blind buy. I suspect I will like it. I've gotten more into these older noir-ish films.

I don't think I need any 4K or UHD or big boxes, or steelbooks on this as of yet, so I'm going to just get the older 2010 Blu-ray release. I found that the film is available for streaming on one of the commercial services and from what I saw, it looked pretty decent to me, so I think I'll be happy with the version I've ordered.
For a blind buy, a digital purchase is another option. The 4K version is on sale at Apple iTunes right now for $4.99.
 

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