Well, it finally happened. After a few months of issues and, luckily, free repairs my receiver has died. I owned a decent Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Had it since 2000 and it endured some very heavy use. I can't really complain, it has provided me some great movie experiences, but the problem with the receiver is something that I don't necessarily think will be easy to fix. For some reason it clips and shut off before the power capacitors even charge. Or in lemans terms instead of it going 'click..pause for two seconds..click', it just goes 'clikclick' and doesn't turn on. The place I took it into have looked at is a repair center for Bestbuy and Futureshop that a buddy of mine is a manage. Both this friend and myself have diplomas in electronic engineering. But to be quite honest, without schematics, your looking for a needle is a haystack if nothing jumps out at you like a blown cap or transistor. Any anyways, my buddy takes it in and has his technicians take a look at it. They blow it all out and plug it in and it works. But not for me. When I get it home same thing. So my buddy takes it back...it has a few problems but then works again. I get it home it works for about 5 mins, the dead. With something as random as that I don't think it is something I really want to have in my system anymore. So, it's time to buy something new...something better...yah, it's time to upgrade. But wait, I am broker than broke can be. My wife has been off work for over a year from a car accident and we are in a legal battle with her insurance company. So we have been living off my cushy income since then. luckily I make big monthly bonuses, or we would have been gone long ago. She also returns to work next month so we will back in the game or life again when that happens. But we have bills to pay and debt to get rid of (we're 27, me and 24, her) So this leaves me with no surround sound and barely any money. I was bidding on a refurbished NAD T752 receiver, but the price went above what I am capable of paying. So it has come down to the fact that I cannot live with tv sound any, longer, but don't want to spend $500 now on something moderately decent, when I can spend a little now, and save money to go to separates in the new year. So downgrading is my option, and I am going to go with a refurbished Yamaha HTR 5730 for 150US or 180CAD. The bottom of the yamaha rung, but still decent and better than many in my opinion. Then is the new year I can star to plane a move into separates for the first time. Right now I am researching NAD T163/T973 combo, the Outlaw 990/770 combo, or maybe a Rotel 1068/1075. These are all thing completely up in the air because I don't now the cost of these sets in Canada, and haven't had a chance to listen to them. Any suggestions are very much welcome. But at least I can see the light and I love the thought of getting to move to separates within the next year. Besides, this has already been a big year for me for electronics, see that I bought a new HDTV, and new upconverting dvd player and got a new universal super remote, I guess I can hold something off until the big '06.