The spammers have won. Giving up.

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  1. Jack Briggs

    Jack Briggs Executive Producer

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    Despite spam filters and blocked addresses and even personally writing some of the more aggressive offenders, nothing is working. Spam is overflowing my personal e-mail address.

    I will have to open up another e-mail account.

    Recently, a friend was showing me an e-mail he received. I could not help but notice that his e-mail "inbox" was filled with what appeared to be legitimate personal correspondences.

    "Don't you have any trouble with spam?" I asked, incredulously.

    Nope. It seems he uses another e-mail account strictly for online transactions. That account, he assures me, is spammed relentlessly. But since his other account is used only for personal letter-writing, it hardly ever receives junk mail.

    I will have to do the same.

    Though Congress is considering a national "do-not-spam" registry similar to the hugely popular (and successful) "do-not-call" antitelemarketing list, its eventual effectiveness is in doubt. The overseas spammers are brilliant at hiding their original addresses. (How many times have I attempted to block addresses only to discover it would be my own address that gets blocked?)

    In addition, the Excite portal I've been using for years itself spams me, and users aren't allowed to block the portal's own spam. That, in addition to Excite's relentless pop-up ads, leaves me with little choice to move on and try to use the account for transactions only.

    Some day this aggressive commercialism is going to cave in on its own weight. Some day there will be a consumer backlash against all this trash: spam, pop-up ads, station "bug" logos, mural ads covering entire city buses, incessant bank promos that slow down ATM transactions — all of it.

    There has to be a solution. ("There will be an answer, let it be, let it be.")
     
  2. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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  3. JustinCleveland

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    I'm much the same. I use a "free" service from Hotmail for my online purchases, and then a secure email address from Charter for my personal correspondance. It has worked well for me.
     
  4. Jesse Skeen

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    How many people actually BUY stuff from a junk e-mailer? A lot of them hide their identity so much that it seems like it would be difficult to actually order from them if you wanted to!
    I have the word "penis" blocked from my emails since I got hundreds of "enlarge your penis" emails every day (mine's big enough, thank you very much), but now I get ones that are obviously changed to get around the filter, like "enlarge your p.enis" [​IMG] Do they think I'm gonna say "Hey, on second thought, maybe I SHOULD try to enlarge it!"
     
  5. Steve_Tk

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    I change my email about once a year it seems like. Cingular and my credit cards must give the thing away.
     
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    i adpoted that practice a couple years ago as well, but unfortunately it didnt help much. i had two hotmail accounts, but both of them got their fair share of 'spiced ham', but the one for online transactions got much much more. i switched to yahoo, and it is a little better, but not much. as much as i hate junk email, i REALLY hate spyware and junk on my own pc. i read an interesting statistic the other day, it said that about 30% of spyware originates from other infected computers. this means that the people who are writing these programs are just trying to be nuisances and infect as many people as possible. i doubt any of them make any siginificant amount of money. when i get my laptop, i am seriously thinking about never going online with it.

    CJ
     
  7. Seth--L

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    What spam filters are you using? I used to use Antispam/MAX which worked perfectly. The only reason I stopped using it was because Eudora 6.0 comes with its own spam filter that works just as well. I receive about 70 spam messages a day, and maybe 1 or 2 make it through into my in box.
     
  8. Todd H

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    I have Bellsouth DSL and their spam filtering is excellent. I RARELY get spam (probably 1 every couple of months or so).

    If you're interested in spending a little, spamcop's e-mail service does a good job as well. The spamcop info link is here.
     
  9. Keith Mickunas

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    If you are using a well known service for your e-mail, such as hotmail or any major ISP, you are going to get spammed. Before I ever once used my old @home account, it had received spam, even before they had hooked up my cable modem. If the domain is well known, it will be hit relentlessly, that's just the way it is. You can change your e-mail address all you want, but if you keep using those services it just doesn't matter.

    I use my own domain, and it resides on a server run by a friend who aggresively blocks spam. I'm careful about where I put that address, i.e. I only shop at respected online stores, and I don't get much spam, maybe one or two a week. I just set up a second account to help in a job search. I'm posting that one on all the various job sites I use, I figure those have got to be spam magnets.

    Another option I used to use is spamcop.net. Get an e-mail there, you can pop it from anywhere, so whenever you change isps you'll still use the same address. If a spam gets through, you quickly report it and hopefully it won't happen again.
     
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    A lot of the spam you get is not from places you give your email address to. Spammers are fairly sophisticated and use random name generators to guess your email address.
     
  12. DougRuss

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    Found out too, that if you click on their " Un-subscribe" link that it just generates more Junk email !! I use to hit that link to un-subscribe, but not anymore..........I just try to ignore them ( maybe they'll "Go Away" ?) [​IMG]
     
  13. Joseph DeMartino

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    Yeah, all most "unsubscribe" links do is verify to the spammer that they've hit a live e-mail address - which they can then sell at an even higher price to other spammers.

    I use BellSouth DSL, and I still get tons of spam directed to my account - none of which ends up in my mailbox thanks to Spam Subtract Pro. This despite the fact that I don't use my BellSouth address for on-line activities or boards like this one. My AT&T account, which I do use for such things, gets tons of spam but it is easy to delete. They also have a "spam blocker" - which does filter out dozens of items a day - but it lets nearly as much by as it blocks. It also has an option that lets you report items that end up in the mailbox as spam, rather than merely deleting them, but despite my diligence in using this option, the spam never seems to get reduced by much. But this is a secondary account so I don't much care.

    Regards,

    Joe
     
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    Yeah I get an unhealthy amount of spam in my hotmail every day too, I gave up a long time ago. I have a seperate Yahoo address for my close friends and relatives, it's been spam free for over a year now.

    I get strange mail in my Hotmail too, you know the usual 'reduce your penis size the easy way' stuff, I mean how do they know? I replied and they sent me a poster of Kathy Bates in a bikini.[​IMG]
     
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  17. Jay H

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    I get no spam on my account and I do use Yahoo for any online transaction where I think I cannot trust them. There are a few of them that I do use my ISP's email address but those are few. I typically use a Yahoo address for those companies I don't trust. So far so good (2+ years). I do get spam at my work address but it's not overwhelming yet and I find some of them quite amusing.

    Jay
     
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    I've used the same email account since 1997. I just use exclusive on my mailbox. Only my friends and places I order online from can mail me.
     
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    There is something I have always wondered about spam…

    Why exactly is it sent out in the first place? I would think that there must be some financial motivation, but, geez, does anyone out there ever actually bother too look into messages about Viagra and Mortgages and all the other nasty stuff I find in my inbox?
     
  20. Leila Dougan

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    I, too, adopoted this strategy long ago. I use a small, local ISP for my email so the domain is not well-known.

    All 'junk' correspondense (forum mailings, online-retailers, website logins, etc) goes to my hotmail and excite emails. Only people I trust get my real address. My ISP lets me have an alias (different address, but the mail goes to my regular account). People who ask for my address but who I don't quite trust, get this alias address. After a few months I might let them get my real address. My ISP lets me change the alias anytime I want, so if I get too much spam I can change the alias and not have it affect my real address.
     

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