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UHD Review The Shining (1980) UHD Review

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Matt Hough, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. Josh Steinberg

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    The image hasn’t been cropped to achieve 1.78:1. It is actually revealing ever so slightly more detail, rather than cutting detail off.
     
  2. Robert Harris

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    To be clear, 1.85 is not always a more cropped image, revealing less

    it’s merely a slightly different shape.
     
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    I give up!
     
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    Ha, things were a lot more simple in the 4x3 days of VHS
     
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    Just make certain that you don't give up on seeing the 4K disc.
    I envy the set-up that you have for viewing this Kubrick/Alcott work; it's a real beauty.
     
  6. Colin Jacobson

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    Err, I watched the 4K like 2 weeks ago!
     
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    Not to get nitpicky, but did Cameron ever state that 1.33:1 was his preferred version. I think I recall him saying something to the effect that he was pleased with the 1.33 version in the LaserDisc liner notes.

    Wasted the Shining 4K the other day. Looked good but did anyone notice any lip syncing issues? I kind of detected it during the interview scene where the dialogue was slightly ahead. Maybe it’s an equipment issue on my end, but it seemed noticeable here. Also it looked as if there were some parts where the image was shaky, one place I noticed it was the part where Wendy was asking Halloran how he knew they called Danny “Doc”
     
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    Only when Danny's finger was attempting to keep up with Tony's voice.;)
     
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  9. Colin Jacobson

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    I did a quick search for the note he included in the LD box but couldn't find it. My memory is that he said something along the lines of "given NTSC's limitations, I prefer the 1.33:1" - I think it was a stronger statement than just he was pleased with it.

    I did find a statement he titled "THE LETTERBOX HERESIES OR: HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE PAN & SCAN" in which he states his preference for 1.33:1 of Super 35 movies.

    https://forum.fanres.com/thread-2421-post-51404.html

    After a little more digging, I found out that allegedly this was included with the 1.33:1 "Abyss" LD, which is why I didn't see it back then - I had the 2.35:1 LD in which he made the more general statement I mentioned above.

    So for "Abyss" and his other Super 35 movies on LD, he did think 1.33:1 was the way to go.

    The "Heresies" letter undercuts my original comment about how we'd be stuck with 1.33:1 "Abyss" if Cameron died in 1994, though, as the forward-looking director included this "out":

    "At least until we get some kind of high-definition video. Then, of course,the poor directors have to go back and transfer their movies all over again. Oh well."

    Unless those "poor directors" are Cameron, in which case he'll never transfer "Abyss" again! :angry:
     
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    Was the maze in the book too? If so, do any of you think King got some inspiration for that plot point from the movie "The Maze" (1953)?
     
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    No. In the book, the garden is a collection of topiary animals that come to life. One of the criticisms of Kubrick's film version is that he replaced this famous plot device with the maze. In hindsight it was a good idea. There's practically zero chance it could have been pulled off successfully considering the limitations of the special effects industry in 1980.
     
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    So did Kubrick get the idea of the maze for the plot device from that 1953 film?
     
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    Or even Laurel and Hardy's "A Chump at Oxford"?
    Seriously, inspiration can even be sparked by a 1939 comedy.
     
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    I don't know the answer to that question. Maybe someone else can chime in?
     
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    I noticed this too, and it wasn't subtle. I don't remember seeing it prior to the job interview scene. My player is an OPPO UDP-205, and I used the sych adjustment function to bring it in line, but no range of adjustment remedied the problem completely, but it was brought close enough to avoid being an overt distraction. As a result of adjustment, I'm not sure if there were other less obvious instances later on. Has no one else encountered the problem?
     
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    I have the UDP-203. Does that have the same feature?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    I remember being initially disappointed by the topiary animals being replaced with the maze -- that was one of my favorite parts of the novel, which I read before the film was originally released. Upon further reflection, though, I doubt that the special effects available in 1980 could have made those animals look as terrifying as my imagination from reading the novel.
     
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    Imagining an attempt at the topiary animals in the Kubrick version of The Shining, and all I'm getting is "O Tannenbaum" on the soundtrack...
     
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    It's not just a question of special effects. Even if it were attempted now, I don't think it would work.
     

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