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THE RECRUIT to be a MAR (Modified Aspect Ratio) release only.

Discussion in 'DVD' started by Peter Apruzzese, Mar 31, 2003.

  1. Iain Lambert

    Iain Lambert Screenwriter

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    If Donaldson wants the disc to be 1.78:1 then thats his choice. Its my choice not to buy it if thats the case, though. I buy films to watch them like they are in the cinema, even if the director thinks they are "improved" by changing them for home release.

    Thats why I bought the theatrical cut of Fellowship, thats why I still have my VHS tape of Aliens, and thats why I don't own many Kubrick films or Apocalypse Now. If I'm prepared to pass on The Shining because its wrong I'm hardly likely to bother with this one.
     
  2. Jon Martin

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  3. Peter Apruzzese

    Peter Apruzzese Producer

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    Sorry kids, it's NOT an April Fools joke.

    See page 2 of the March 31, 2003 issue of Video Business for the Touchstone Home Video ad for The Recruit.

    I'll post a picture of the relevant portion of the ad later if you still need convincing.
     
  4. Peter Apruzzese

    Peter Apruzzese Producer

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    Here ya go:

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Jerry Gracia

    Jerry Gracia Supporting Actor

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  6. BrentPollard

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    "Shows more of the film than was presented in the theater."
    Very cool, I think that similar words should be used on all P&S version.
    "Shows less of the film than was presented in the theater."[​IMG]
     
  7. Jerry Gracia

    Jerry Gracia Supporting Actor

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    Brent,

    yeah right! [​IMG]
     
  8. Dave H

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but can't one create mattes and put them on his/her TV, creating 2:40 like the theatrical version if this DVD is 1:78?
     
  9. WillG

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    That would only work if the 1.78:1 area is pulled from the center of the negative for the whole film. Or in otherwords the 2.40:1 in theaters would have to be the exact center of anything that is opened up. An exact equal amount of extra head and legroom would have to be opened up, or else homemade mattes for 2.40:1 would screw up framing. I am under the impression that Super 35 is a bit more liberal in terms of framing and directors can shift the framing up, down at his or her own discretion even though there is a standard topline on Super 35 film. (an example of this is on the supplements for the Platnium Edition for "Seven") Right?
     
  10. Jeff Kleist

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    That is correct Will, it's highly unlikely the film is simply a center extraction
     
  11. Declan

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    I think Donaldson did this before. Was'nt No Way Out super 35?


    In any case this has really pissed me off. As I thought it looked great at the cinema in scope last Friday.
     
  12. Chad Ferguson

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    Personally, I don't care too much what the director thinks on this. The version on saw in theaters was the one I was going to buy.
     
  13. Paul McElligott

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    Unless...

    Donaldson shot the film with 1.85 in mind and someone at the studio imposed a different ratio for theatrical distribution. Why they might do this I have no idea but the words "Director's ORIGINAL 1.78 Aspect Ratio" leads me to believe that the director is giving us the movie the way HE shot it.

    Fine by me.
     
  14. Patrick McCart

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    Remember folks, trust your opinion before the filmmakers' opinions on exhibiton of a film. Roger Donaldson only directed the movie. Many of you paid money to see it at a theater.
     
  15. Damin J Toell

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    I just wanted to let you all know about the bonehead mistake I made. When I read the original post, for some reason I thought that meant the director was releasing it in 1.33 aspect ratio. I forgot that 1.78 is still widescreen. That's why I was so pissed, who the hell wants 1.33???

    So even though it will be a differently seen version, I think I can handle it as long as it's still widescreen.

    I'm an idiot sometimes.
     
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    Opening up w/s films from 2.35 to 1.78 on DVD is becoming common in the UK. Examples I can think of are U571 & Gosford Park which is why I have R1 versions of both.

    I think as a number of you say above as w/s TVs become more common as in the UK people want a w/s film to fill the whole screen rather than still have black bars if the film is 2.35 they feel they are being ripped off after spending all that money on a new w/s TV.

    In terms of where 2.35 goes on a Super 35 frame wasn't there a good explanation of this on the T2 Ultimate extras disk showing it does not have to be in the centre. So you need to be careful where you matte as seen with the BTTF problems.
     
  19. Jerry Gracia

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    Just make all theater screens 1.78:1

    Cool! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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