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The Orville - Season 1

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by SamT, May 15, 2017.

  1. TravisR

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    It's Fox so they MAY release it in Europe but it'll probably never have a Blu-ray in North America.
     
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    I'd like to see a future episode where they do an episode playing off of Star Trek's "Mirror,Mirror".
    Kind of like what MST3K did with "Last of the Wild Horses"
    Where Dr. F. sends a matter transference device to the SOL during an ion storm.
    And there are evil versions of Servo and Gypsy.

    I'd love to see this done with Orville.
     
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    I really enjoyed this episode! Very few television shows are ever brave enough to depict the concept of religion in a realistic manner, definitely not to the extent The Orville has achieved. Some parts were a bit predictable, but it all made plenty of sense.

    I'm really gonna miss this show until it finally comes back next year.
     
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    The beverage and game with Bordus were hilarious, and the hangovers the next day also made me laugh. The narrative adventure quite involving and more complex than one might expect from the show. Nice season capper.
     
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    Like last week, we have another episode with good writing, where every conflict is moral. And the twist with the aging planet was a lot of fun. Also, the incident with Bordus: my wife thought I was going into a fit because I was laughing so hard...five minutes later!

    Besides the fact that both my wife and I knew what the plot was basically going to be after the little girl uttered "Kelly," my only nit-pick is how the inciting incident was handled. I didn't believe Kelly, who's the smart one, would go off on a walkabout by herself like that--and that the other two would let her. Minor complaint, true, but then again it would have only taken minor effort to write it more credibly.

    Glad to see the show end the season on a high note, doing what it does best: being funny and intelligent at the same time.
     
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    Episode 12 "Mad Idolatry"
    Such an EXCELLENT episode.
    Probably my favorite episode this season.
    I'm assuming the reason that they are making this the season finale is so they can end it on the relationship status.

    I love Issac.
    All throughout this season he's been something of a child.
    So eager to learn and yet has the ears to repeat anything he hears.
    Like in tonight's episode calling Kelly "pissy" after hearing it from Mercer.
    Fantastic stuff.

    I hope we get cast commentaries on the DVD/ bluray.

    VUDU does have the season to purchase in HDX.
    I may do this if we don't get bluray.
    But get the DVD set if there are commentaries
     
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    Last night's episode was fantastic. I already miss the show.
     
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    My favourite comedy part was the second conversation with the admiral when...

    The captain thought the communications link had ended, but it was still active!

    Mercer: "[sarcasm]That's a direct order![/sarcasm]"

    Admiral: "WHAT?!?"

    :rolling-smiley:
     
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    ^ That! I was laughing very loudly at that piece.

    A nice, quiet-ish episode to end the season on. The only thing I didn't like was the ending to the planet-side episode. It felt rushed and could have been the cliffhanger to the next ep. I thought it was a way to

    get rid of Isaac, but apparently not
     
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    Haven't seen the last episode yet, but love this show.

    It's just a great, humorous take on the sci-fi genre and well done..
     
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    This was a terrific episode.

    Not sure I understand why Moral is brought up so much in this specific show topic.


    Anyway Why would you think that this would be a way to lose Issac from the show?
    He would only be gone 11 days in Orville time.
    700 years on their time was more then enough time for him to be there.
     
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    There are lots of different plot reasons the end might not have turned out the way it did. He is a robot and they tend to break, even the best of them. Maybe he found a way to have a family and didn't want to leave.

    I dunno. It was a thought. There's usually some kind of "hook" in a final episode. And yes, I know, this wasn't designed to be the finale.
     
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    Because when the shows are moral the ratings are generally higher, and when they're not moral, the ratings are generally lower. That's why. It's not rocket science. I want this show to succeed. And that takes ratings, especially when the critics are against it.

    And as an added plus, the stories are better. That's why the ratings are generally higher.
     
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    Yeah but you brought it up. I’ve ever seen anyon else say what you just did before about a tv show.

    Good stories and interesting characters are what get people to watch.
    Not if there’s a good moral to the story. Not as much as you claim.
     
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    What I am talking about has nothing to do with a moral to the story. That's for Aesop's Fables. I'm talking about moral argument. In the history of human storytelling, that's what creates good stories and interesting characters.

    It's hard to find an interesting character that was created without moral argument. That goes for Shakespeare. It goes for Popeye. And it goes for THE ORVILLE.

    That doesn't mean the "right" side always wins. I personally think the wrong moral argument prevailed in Casablanca, which may have something to do with it being hailed by many (including me) as one of the greatest movies ever made (if not the greatest).

    Casablanca asks, "Patriotism" or "Romantic Love"? Heartbreaking choice.

    RICK: "I've got a job to do, too. Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. Ilsa, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world."

    Perhaps the greatest moral argument ever made in the history of cinema.

    And that's what makes moral argument so vital. At the end of the day, great moral argument leaves us with no definitive answer, because both sides are right. And it's up to the artist to try to convince us which one to believe in.
     
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    Duplicate post
     
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    Ok fine but I still don’t think it has as much bearing on the number of watchers of Tv show as you say.
    Do you have stats on that?
     
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    Maybe I just don’t care about moral argument as much as you or as much as you think viewers do. All I want is to be entertained.
     
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    What exactly do you mean by “moral argument”?
     
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    I am not being facetious when I say I liked this episode better then first time, when it was called "Blink of an Eye" (one of my favorite Voyager episodes). Save for humor, that episode was better across the board. The biggest weakness of Mad Idolatry was how incredibly dumb Kelly's actions and reactions were. It's annoying to watch supposedly smart characters doing dumb and legally trangressive things to move the plot along.

    That said, the opening was delightful. They have done a great job with the characters, and all of those laughs were earned. I kind of wish there was an entire episode like this, just a collection of vignettes of every day life on the Orville.

    I chuckled that the aliens were able to create the teleportation that thus far has eluded the Union.
     
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