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The Official "What Speakers or Subwoofer Should I Buy" Assistance Thread

Discussion in 'Beginners, General Questions' started by Dave Upton, May 13, 2016.

  1. JohnRice

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    If you’re trying to put together a budget surround system, the Polk Monitor series is an excellent choice. Look for deals on them, which are easy to find. Just don’t get a Polk sub. Look at Dayton or BIC.
     
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    Thank you. I was thinking of the monitors but by just looking at specs it is hard to decide. I also looked at the Dayton t652 and pioneer fs52. I have seen that the t50 are better for surround on movie and pioneer are better musically but I don’t know how accurate that is since I haven’t heard them. I’m also just considering bookshelf speakers for my fronts since I have a high cabinet I would be putting them on anyway, which I would Rather spend 200-300 on a pair of bookshelves than one tower. Poor man problems.
     
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    Better for surround and better for music are just some folks opinion. There's not too much you can tell from others opinions. You have to listen and decide.

    That is a bit different for subwoofers. Specs do matter.
     
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    Who said there is anything wrong with them? I asked why all the choices were Polk, and mentioned that perhaps there were other options available which might suit his needs. No reason to keep a narrow focus on choices.
     
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    Good evening, all. New to the forum and not really well versed in home theater. I looked around a little bit, but did not see my exact question asked and answered before, so forgive me if it has been.

    What are you looking for (Speakers, Subwoofer or Both)?
    Wireless Speakers

    Primary Use:
    TV & Movies

    Desired Configuration:
    5.1

    Room Size:
    Dual Room Setup (40 ft total)

    Is the room open to other areas of your home:
    No

    Do you already have an AV receiver or amplifier?
    Yes

    What's your budget (low to high):
    $1500-2000

    Any special requirements (Wife Acceptance)?
    Here's the rub: I have a living room that is open to my home office. Total distance from TV in the living room to my office is ~40 feet. Because of acoustics in the area, in order for me to hear the TV in my office it has to be turned up to a level that is uncomfortable for anyone in the living room. I have been searching for some sort of wireless setup that would allow me to have a speaker in my office with independent sound control, leaving those in the living room to listen off either the TV sound or a sound bar. I have checked out Sonos and a couple other brands, but am always told that there will be a delay (from "slight" to "significant") in the sound delivery to the speaker in the office. So my question is, in general, is this accurate? Is there no wireless system that will allow seamless sound between wireless speakers?
     
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    Hi,

    I'm sorry if this question was already asked, I couldn't find it thru search...

    I'm looking for a way to reduce wires and units as much as possible (by reducing units I mean that for example a soundbar with integrated woofer is better than separate units in my case...)
    The rear speakers need to be battery powered. I understand that woofer/soundbar will have to have power, but Ideally I'd have a bar under the TV and two battery powered speakers in the back.

    There are only three off the shelf options I found:
    1) Oneaudio (various options, micro/mini/medi w/ or without woofer)
    https://www.oneaudio.cc/wireless-surround

    2) JBL 5.1
    https://www.jbl.com/bar-series/JBL+Bar+5.1.html?dwvar_JBL Bar 5.1_color=Black-USA-Current

    3) Damson S-series
    https://www.damsonglobal.com/us/homecinema

    I was wondering whether

    a) someone has some experience with any of these
    b) are there any other options I'm missing?

    Is there a soundbar that can cooperate with wireless battery powered speakers?

    I'm not much of an audiophile, but I do enjoy good sound

    The budget is up to $2k, but I'd prefer to stay in the 700-800 territory if possible.

    Also, if it supports dolby atmos, that's a huge plus.

    Thank you in advance!
     
  7. Message #207 of 212 Nov 15, 2018
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    Wayne A. Pflughaupt

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    The issue in your situation is that the TV sound you hear will be delayed ~40 ms compared to your local speaker, because the local speaker is right in front of you, while the TV is 40 ft. away. So actually, the delay added by wireless might work to your benefit.

    A Bluetooth transmitter like the Avantree Oasis coupled with a Bluetooth speaker is the cheapest route to get sound to your office space. However, if you do get a delay issue (meaning it’s more or less than 40 ms), there will be no no way to compensate.

    The good news is that with your budget, you can afford a “Rolls Royce” system using pro-audio gear that will be offer more reliability than Bluetooth can offer. I’d suggest the DN-202WT transmitter and DN-202WR receiver combo from Denon Professional, along with an active speaker of your choice (probably you’ll want one with front-access volume controls). You could then add a digital processor that could dial in the exact amount of delay so that the sound is seamless. It should be no problem getting this set up for hundreds under your budget.

    Regards,
    Wayne A. Pflughaupt
     
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    What are you looking for (Speakers, Subwoofer or Both)? Both

    Primary Use: 90% movies, 10% video gaming

    Desired Configuration: 5.1.2

    Room Size: 18x16, A frame living room. highest point runs north to south, so top of the A. TV sits on East wall, couch closer to west wall. Probably important to give you an idea of how the TV and I sit in the room. Couch is approximately 12' away from TV. Large wrap around couch, so it runs over to the north wall, and then down that wall. Back wall is about 3.5' from the couch.

    Is the room open to other areas of your home: Yes, on the south wall, opening into the kitchen. And on the west wall, back south corner, opening to long hallway

    Do you already have an AV receiver or amplifier? Receiver, Denon AVRX4400H is what i have purchased`

    What's your budget (low to high): $1300 - 1700

    Any special requirements (Wife Acceptance)? Just that I don't really want to install speakers in the ceiling for Atmos. So whatever is recommended, would Atmos work being placed on top of the front L&R speakers, or built into them? Or that just won't work with your ceiling type, and i should buy your recommendations and go back to 7.1, which is what I have now. WIFE APPROVED!!!

    thanks,
     
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    With that percentage of movies you shouldn't really spend less than $500 on your subwoofer as it's an integral part of the experience. That's the price range where you start to get solid products. One of the better subs in that class is the Rythmik LV12F.

    Speakers tend to be a bit more of a personal choice - as there are many variables involved - but a few potential options are HTD's Level Two, NHT's C Series and the Premier Acoustic products.
     
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    Ok. HSU VTF-3 MK5 has been Purchased.

    Still debating speakers. Best Buy is all I have for a store to demo. And they have a very small selection. And it’s all stacked on top of itself on the shelf.

    Trying to find a place to go listen to the Elac debut 2.0 system. Lot of really good reviews on them. But I know what’s pleasing to your ear might not be as pleasing to mine. May just have to roll the dice.
     
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    So you jumped right to a $900 subwoofer? There's something you don't see everyday, but you chose wisely; it's better to spend a little more up front than to realize you didn't get something acceptable and have to buy twice. BTW, the VTF-3 is a very nice subwoofer. I reviewed one about 3 1/2 years ago and was quite impressed by what it was capable of.

    When using reviews to help make a purchase decision pay particular attention to what they say about aspects you consider important. For example, suppose you prefer very clear voices. If most of the reviews comment about poor movie dialog perhaps those are not the speakers for you. If you see comments about very sharp highs but you're sensitive to treble then those are probably not a good option. Things like that.
     
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    Thanks Jman. I’m about to just go to BestBuy and purchase the Elac Debut 2.0 6.2 series, minus the sub. And also the Klipsch r-820f and the rest of the 7.0 to match.

    And just stand it up side by side. Return the one I don’t like. Can’t figure out what to do. And before anyone says if you can afford that, just buy the much higher priced XYZ setup, I can’t afford it. But I have great credit which I never use, lol. So I can easily swing that for a few days of listening.

    But maybe speaker break in would never happen and I’d still never know.

    Closest two comparisons I’ve found to those speakers seem to have most votes going to the Elac debut. Unless I can splurge for the Klipsch RP series the Elac was better.

    If anyone out there has been able to listen side by side I’d love to hear your opinion though. Again, I’m a movie watcher. Never listen to music unless I’m in the car.
     

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