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The Official 2019 Oscars Nomination Announcements Discussions & Predictions Thread

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Ronald Epstein, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. Wayne_j

    Wayne_j Cinematographer

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    I agree with all of you who say that Cinematography and Film Editing are major categories and should definitely be seen on the broadcast.
     
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    I wonder how many horses lost their heads before those members ‘opted in’ on these changes
     
  3. Josh Steinberg

    Josh Steinberg Executive Producer
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    If I had the time and patience, I’d be curious to throw a couple of recent broadcasts into an editing timeline and to then cut out the things that most of us agree have no part being there - like last year’s Wrinkle In Time screening stunt - and then see how long the show runs. I bet if those skits were cut, and if the nominees were positioned next to the stage so that there wouldn’t be 2-3 minutes of the winner walking down the aisle after they’re called, you could get a 3 hour show without sacrificing speeches or categories.
     
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  4. Tino

    Tino Executive Producer
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    As I noted previously,the James Franco/Anne Hathaway Oscar telecast ran only 3:17.

    That’s with all 24 categories shown, skits, accepatace speeches, Yadda yadda yada etc...

    So it can be done with minor editing without sacrificing any Awards.
     
  5. Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Producer

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    Of course it can. They just don't want to.

    The Tonys, which Glenn Weiss has directed a number of times, always does this. They have for years. I watch them every year and I don't remember a broadcast since I've been watching that aired every award live.

    They present the award during a commercial break and then just air the announcer saying "Earlier, the award went to..." and show a one-line excerpt of the speech which takes less time than it took you to read this sentence.

    Weiss is directing and co-producing the Oscars this year, and he also directed last year's show (for which he won the Emmy that resulted in his onstage proposal.) He is going to bring his experience from the Tonys to bear on the Oscars, I'm sure of it. They'll follow the same model I just described.
     
  6. Matt Hough

    Matt Hough Executive Producer
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    Guillermo is SO right!
     
  7. Tino

    Tino Executive Producer
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    So who is more to blame here?

    ABC or The Academy?

    Or are they equally guilty?

    I think both.
     
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  8. JQuintana

    JQuintana Screenwriter

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    I think it's all about keeping what few viewers they have locked in for full 3 hours and since a fair amount of those watching are more "casual" movie goers they are looking to see the glam, the flash, and all the stars, and most likely they are only looking to see the "Best Actor" " Best Actress" "Best Movie" type of award speeches. If they left in the more tech/obscure awards and the speeches that come with them, the average viewer will just tune out.

    So from that standpoint, the producers were wise to stick to the most high profile, high flash awards and speeches. People just don't want to listen to a 5 minute speech by a "Cinematographer" or "DP". The show is about keeping asses in chairs and cash coming in.
     
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    Wrong.

    I and many many people here do want to hear their minute or two (5 minutes yeah right)speech.

    Jeez. We all get why they’re doing it obviously. I find it amusing that some think it needs to be explained to us. :rolleyes:

    The point is Many of us just don’t agree.

    Edit. Oh and by the way. “Cinematographer” and “DP” are the same thing in case you didn’t know.
     
  10. David Weicker

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    No, the show is not about “keeping asses in the chairs and the cash coming in”.

    It’s about honoring the achievements of the past year.
     
  11. TravisR

    TravisR Studio Mogul

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    The Academy 100% because they aren't standing up to ABC. ABC is just making a show to pander to people who only want to see stars and don't care about the actual art. It's gross but I understand ABC's motivation. The Academy is taking a dump on a keystone of their own art form.
     
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    Few viewers? Close to 30 million is a few? It’s the second highest rated entertainment show after the Super Bowl.
     
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    Exactly what I was getting at. Probably 10% of the folks who tune in are all about celebrating every aspect of the art of movies and want to hear and see every aspect of the craft represented LIVE and I understand that. But the other 90% watching just want to see what the stars are wearing or saying and that's about it.
     
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    Just saying that they are on the decline every year. Since 2015 they have lost almost 10 MILLION viewers.
     
  15. Tino

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    So what?? That’s not what the Oscars should be about. And some of their highest rated shows were also some of their longest so that argument doesn’t hold water either.
     
  16. Tino

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    Yeah. We know that.
     
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    JQuintana Screenwriter

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    Sorry that this whole thing makes you SO angry but it's the world we live in now. Advertisers want their money and the AA are somewhat of a dying breed and now that folks can stream live and have access to various avenues to see all the subcategories the producers have wisely opted to streamline it down to the most "entertaining" parts for the masses to enjoy. We live in a different time and people need to learn to adapt and adjust.
     
  18. Tino

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    Ya know I kinda hope show comes in under 3 hours and the ratings are the worst ever this year.

    Otherwise you know ABC and the Academy will take credit for the higher rating rather than the blockbuster films that are nominated helping as they always do.
     
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    Maybe one day soon the AA will just be a feature seen only on Netflix or Hulu or similar and that will leave them with the opportunity to do a 4 or 5 hour show to please the niche crowd like yourself.
     
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    Sorry, You just don’t get it dude.

    And I’m not fuc*ing angry!:angry:
     

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