The Man With The Golden Arm

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  1. Gordon McMurphy

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    Directed by Otto Preminger in 1956.

    I ordered the region 2 edition yesterday (it's out on monday) and I just found out that it's a 1.33:1 transfer. Was it intended to be projected at 1.66, 1.75, 1.85? Was the region 1 edition 1.33:1?

    The video quality is said to be very good though. Even if it was a 1.66/1.75/1.85 open-matte film, I won't quarrel too much in this case, but it's always best to matte 1.37:1 Academy Aperture open-matte films to their specified and intended ratio, I say.

    It's a good film and Sinatra is superb.

    Thanks for reading.


    G.C.M
     
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    I think MGM owns it now and the OAR is 1.33:1.

    (The LD was made by WB, which doesn't make sense...this is a United Artists film.)
     
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    So it was intended to be screened at 1.37?
    I really would have thought that by '56, 1.66 would have been the minimum projection ratio? So when did 1.37 composition/intended projection of 'new' 35mm films begin? Did it ever? :wink:
    The region 2 edition appears to be a quality edition. It has a commentary by film historian, Ken Barnes, interviews with Elmer Bernstein, Sinatra etc. All for £11.99/$18.48. Like I said; not bad. [​IMG]
    Thanks again, Patrick.
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    A lot of black and white low budget films were still being filmed in standard Academy ratio in the 50s. MWTGA was not a high cost film. This is probably Sinatra's greatest film and his least known.

    P.S. A title song sung by Sinatra was recorded but not used in t he film. You can hear it on the box set "Frank Sinatra In Hollywood" which was recently released.
     
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    Gordy.
    There's a weath of information on the whole beginnings of the wide screen era. Go here:
    http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/
    You'll need to spend an hour or so. Enjoy!
     
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    Oh, I've been to Mr Hart's legendary website, Pete! [​IMG] But I don't recall Marty giving details on when 1.37:1 stopped being the intended ratio for 35mm movies in America.
    But it is a great site. Love those usherettes too! :wink:
    Great stuff!
    Gord
     
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    The Otto Preminger films THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARM, THE MOON IS BLUE, ADVISE AND CONSENT, THE CARDINAL, and SAINT JOAN, are currently controlled by his estate, and for now have been licensed to Warner Bros. for video release.

    However, GOLDEN ARM is technically a PD title in America, so many cheap DVD copies have been floating around.

    Knowing WB's mentality, it will likely be a long time before any of these titles are made available in DVD format.
     
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    Yeah, Paths Of Glory was possibly the last mainstream American film composed and intended for 1.37. And it's beautifully shot by Georg Krause. The shots in the trenches are among the finest examples of realism in war films. Kirk is brilliant. It's a massively important film for many reasons and will never likely lose any of its power.


    Gordy
     
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    Can someone tell me which of these is better: The "Passport" or the "Delta" "Golden Arm" DVDs? Or, considering neither organization is one of the "big boys" of DVD replication, does it make any difference whatsoever?
    Thank you.
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    Neither.

    It looks like an official DVD is coming soon that is endorsed by the Sinatra Estate. I think The Digital Bits mentioned it.

    Don't support public domain cheapies!

    On aspect ratio...

    If it was an indie and released in '56, it's likely to be 1.33:1. It's possible for it to be 1.66:1, but we'll find out eventually.
     
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    Eyes Wide Shut (1999) was composed for academy ratio, was it not?
     
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    Sorry, Dave; it's neither. It's from Sanctuary. Good distributor. But the DVD was produced by Ken Barnes for Laureate Productions - the same company who put together the stunning upcoming Citizen Kane: Special Edition for Universal.
    There is also a superb SE of Sinatra's, Suddenly, which looks to be the best DVD edition.
    Gordy
     
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    Ring a ding ding!
     
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