International The Man With The Golden Arm Blu-ray

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  1. Craig Beam

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    Title says it all.... it appears a decent Special Edition was released in Region 2, but all I can find for Region 1 are a couple of cheapies (one from Delta and one from Steeplechase). Are either of these any good? Anybody?
     
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    Laureate, who released the R2 SE has this to say on their website:

    "Later this year will see the first official U.S. releases of Laureate product. in expanded and newly mastered versions of THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARM - which is being produced in association with Sinatra Enterprises - to include extra features in addition to the ones already available on the current European release.
    Also Laureate's much-praised edition of Frank Capra's MEET JOHN DOE will be remastered for USA release. Both films will be presented as De Luxe two disc Special Editions. The releasing label will be Hart Sharp Video of New York. More Laureate releases through Hart Sharp will follow in 2005."
     
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    I received in the new The Man With The Golden Arm Blu-ray by Network (ordered from Amazon uk) today. It is region-free, 1.66 ratio, and looks quite nice. Nothing spectacular, but nice video and audio. Happy to have this one. The cover states "Brand new high definition restoration of this groundbreaking film". The price is not bad either.

    http://www.amazon.co... the golden arm
     
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    Glad to hear it John. Thanks for reminding me of this release.
     
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    Somewhere in the aspect ratio discussion, I was taken to task by someone who insisted it was not a widescreen film.


    Glad to hear that common sense has prevailed - and that research in primary source materials has made a difference!


    From Film Bulletin - September 9, 1955 - three weeks before the start of principal photography.


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    Surprisingly (being a big fan of Ms Parker and Ms Novak), I've never seen this film, but Network's Blu-ray sounds like the perfect introduction.
     
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    I just found out about this release while reading the aspect ratio thread. Welcome news, this is an underappreciated strong dramatic performance from Sinatra, and well worth grabbing if you've never seen it before. We definitely need more of Frank Sinatra on Blu.

    Now if only one of his other great dramatic performances, namely Some Came Running, would come out on Blu...
     
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    Great Eleanor Parker performance, too. Darren McGavin...all good.
     
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    On the German Blu-Ray, there was a UA Hexagon. Must have been an International print.
     
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    Looking forward to watching this today and will report back.
     
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    As I recall (from this forum earlier? maybe elsewhere?) Torsten Kaiser worked on the new HD of this from an original open matte element. He and his tech observed that between them Preminger and DP Sam Leavitt played pretty fast and loose with potential problems in the headroom and even footroom, vis a vis, boom mikes and even cables on the set floor.


    I may have the quote wrong but while they had originally intended to potentially remaster for a 1.85 mask they ended settling for 1.66, given the shot by shot, sequence by sequence detective work they had to do to dodge possible visual clangers creeping into the final matte.


    EDIT: have only now just caught up with the latest comments on this from BK at the AR thread. I am not happy to hear the grain might be scrubbed. Hasn't this also been released in Germany on BD? Any comparisons with the Network (which is presumably a port?)
     
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    I recall this too.
     
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    Nothing he says makes sense to me - but maybe I'm just misunderstanding it all. There is almost no detail in the transfer at all. Contrast is okay, but no textures, no detail - maybe in the closest of close-ups there's a little but that's it. I'm rarely bothered by this stuff, but this bothered me.
     
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    Ouch :(
     
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    It is, of course, a step up from the terrible DVDs, but I'm not at all sure this guy has seen the one Warners put out, which was not bad. But detail? Not the kind of detail I would call detail and I am not, as you all know, a crier of DNR - this is not a film that had filters - this was a gritty film and it has little to no grain and is what the wags call waxy looking, I suppose. But if he's only comparing it to PD releases I can understand that for him it might seem like there's detail. You want to see detail, look at Warners' recent Thank Your Lucky Stars - that's detail. Look at The Young Lions - that's detail. Anyway, it's all just opinions, including mine own.


    I also find it odd that the reviewer spends all his time giving us a history lesson of the film that he got from books, literally just paraphrasing what he read (to give him points, though, he does credit each and every book).
     
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    Bruce,


    Warner DVD or this BD release?
     

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