1. Sign-up to become a member, and most of the ads you see will disappear. It only takes 30 seconds to sign up, so join the discussion today!
    Dismiss Notice

The Lion King (2019)

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Jake Lipson, Nov 2, 2017.

Tags:
  1. Message #141 of 288 Jun 24, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2019
    Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    The new soundtrack is up for pre-order with a digital release date of July 11 and a physical release date of July 19.

    Track listing:

    1. Circle of Life/Nants' Ingonyama (Lindiwe Mkhize, African Vocals performed by Lebo M)
    2. Life's Not Fair (Hans Zimmmer)
    3. Rafiki's Fireflies (Hans Zimmmer)
    4. I Just Can't Wait to Be King (JD McCrary, Shahadi Wright Joseph and John Oliver)
    5. Elephant Graveyard (Hans Zimmmer)
    6. Be Prepared (2019) (Chiwetel Ejiofor)
    7. Stampede (Hans Zimmmer)
    8. Scar Takes the Throne (Hans Zimmmer)
    9. Hakuna Matata (Billy Eichner, Seth Rogen, JD McCrary and Donald Glover)
    10. Simba Is Alive! (Hans Zimmmer)
    11. The Lion Sleeps Tonight (Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen)
    12. Can You Feel the Love Tonight (Beyoncé, Donald Glover, Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen)
    13. Reflections of Mufasa (Hans Zimmmer)
    14. TBA
    15. Battle for Pride Rock (Hans Zimmmer)
    16. Remember (Hans Zimmmer)
    17. Never Too Late (Elton John, African Vocals performed by Lebo M)
    18. He Lives in You (Lebo M)
    19. Mbube (Lebo M)

    Jon Favreau previously said they would only have new songs over the credits, and this bears that out. "Never Too Late" and "Mbute" are the only new things here. He Lives in You was originally recorded for the 1995 album "Rhythm of the Pride Lands" and appears in both the Broadway musical and the original film's sequel Simba's Pride. The tracks attributed to Hans Zimmer are obviously underscore. I assume that whatever the TBA track #14 is will probably involve Beyonce.

    After being burned by Aladdin, I'm not going to pre-order this and will wait until after I see the film to decide if I want it, but pre-orders are up if you feel differently. Target will have an exclusive version featuring two "collectable character cards," but no additional music.

    Also, the designation of (2019) on "Be Prepared" suggests that there might be new lyrics in that song. Aladdin also had (2019) in the track title for Arabian Nights, for which all the lyrics were entirely rewritten. I guess that would make sense since they've at least renamed two of the hyenas, but I remain skeptical as to whether that's a good idea. We'll see.
     
  2. Chris Will

    Chris Will Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Messages:
    1,267
    Likes Received:
    463
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Location:
    Montgomery, AL
    Real Name:
    Chris WIlliams
    I’m really interested to hear Zimmer’s score. While I may not be a huge fan of modern day Zimmer, I really enjoy his early work (80’s, 90’s and early 00’s) and The Lion King is one my favorite scores of his. I wonder if he’s going to do something new or a copy and paste job from the original.
     
  3. benbess

    benbess Producer

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2009
    Messages:
    3,662
    Likes Received:
    2,052
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Real Name:
    Ben
    My wife and I got our tix with A-list for the Thursday night opening in IMAX. Looking forward to it!
     
  4. Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
     
  5. Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
  6. Malcolm R

    Malcolm R Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2002
    Messages:
    17,222
    Likes Received:
    4,118
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Malcolm
    Have there been any trailers yet that show the characters actually talking and having a conversation in a scene? It seems like every trailer I've seen is just the animals running around with a voice-over narration, not any of the characters talking.
     
    Jake Lipson likes this.
  7. Message #147 of 288 Jul 6, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2019
    Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    Good question. A couple have had a line or two -- there's one going around Facebook which I can't find a YouTube embed for that includes Pumbaa and Timon saying one new line each to each other, and in the featurette I posted in message #144, you can see the "What's a motto?" conversation from Hakuna Matata, as well as Nala's line about seeing Simba again, and a teeny bit of the Hakuna Matata song. But there have not really been extended clips of conversations.

    They definitely are trying to lean away from that in the marketing for whatever reason. I suppose because they're selling it as though it looks like a nature documentary, and obviously in a real nature documentary the animals wouldn't talk. It's photo-realism up to the point where we have to accept that these animals are speaking. I don't really get the reluctance on Disney's part though; we all know that the animals have to speak, so admitting that in the marketing shouldn't matter.
     
    Malcolm R likes this.
  8. Message #148 of 288 Jul 7, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2019
    Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    I finally worked things out so I could get my ticket tonight for the opening night show.

    My local theater is starting the first show at 6pm on July 18; they are not participating in the 5pm fan event.

    For the opening of Toy Story 4 last month, the 6pm show was in the Cinemark XD room, and the next showtime at 7pm was in the biggest auditorium with the largest non-XD screen. I couldn't get there by 6, so went with 7:00 and saw it on the standard screen (which is still plenty big.)

    This time, once again, I can't get there before 7 so expected the same thing, which would be fine. However, interestingly enough, they've switched the programming strategy. 6pm is in the large but non-XD room, while the 7pm is in the XD room.

    I also just found a reward on the Cinemark Movie Rewards website which allows you to waive the surcharge for an XD showtime. So I redeemed some of my points for that reward and was then able to purchase my ticket for the 7pm XD showtime for the same price I would have paid for the 6pm show. So that's a nice unexpected bonus.
     
  9. Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    Here's a YouTube video where somebody uploaded a few of the TV spots Disney has been putting on Facebook. Disney hasn't officially uploaded them to YouTube yet, but they come from Disney's social media channels.

     
  10. Message #150 of 288 Jul 8, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2019
    Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    Disney released a cast photo for a movie in which none of the cast will appear physically on screen.

    Lion King cast photo.

    Also, photos of the cast members with their CGI animal counterparts:

    Simba. Nala. Scar. Timon and Pumbaa and Zazu. Sarabi. Hyenas. Simba and Nala Kids.
     
  11. TonyD

    TonyD Who do we think I am?
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 1999
    Messages:
    19,505
    Likes Received:
    1,635
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Gulf Coast
    Real Name:
    Tony D.
    Has there been any discussion on the color pallet on this movie?

    Looks like a lot of brown.
     
  12. Message #152 of 288 Jul 9, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2019
    Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    Beyonce is releasing a new single "Spirit" from the movie. It appears that this is the mystery TBA track #14 from the soundtrack.

    https://deadline.com/2019/07/beyonce-releasing-new-single-spirit-for-the-lion-king-soundtrack-1202644057/

    Edit: EW says this will be "The Lion King: The Gift," apparently a separate "companion album" from the actual soundtrack. So it's not entirely clear if "Spirit" is the TBA track from the soundtrack or something else exclusively on this other album.

    https://ew.com/movies/2019/07/09/the-lion-king-beyonce-album/

    Edit: Variety says the single "Spirit" will appear on both Beyonce's companion album and on the official soundtrack. There are also Twitter reactions (see my post below about those) that mention Spirit specifically. So it appears that it is in the new movie, as part of the story, contrary to Jon Favreau's previous comments that there would not be a new song in the body of the film.

    https://variety.com/2019/film/news/beyonce-new-song-lion-king-album-spirit-nala-movie-1203263043/
     
  13. Message #153 of 288 Jul 10, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2019
    Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    The premiere was tonight, and Twitter reactions are starting to come in. Most praise the visual effects and the voice work.

    https://www.slashfilm.com/the-lion-king-early-buzz/

    Also, Disney uploaded a livestream video (which is no longer live but can be played back) of the red carpet interviews and such.

     
  14. Message #154 of 288 Jul 10, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2019
    Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    Donald Glover on Jimmy Kimmel Live last night talking about the movie. This also includes a new clip of Hakuna Matata:

     
  15. Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    The review embargo lifts tomorrow morning.
     
    Jeff Adkins likes this.
  16. Chris Will

    Chris Will Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Messages:
    1,267
    Likes Received:
    463
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Location:
    Montgomery, AL
    Real Name:
    Chris WIlliams
    The soundtrack is on Apple Music now. One annoying thing though, the Beyoncé track Spirit is not available on Apple Music under the soundtrack album. You have to go to the single version to listen to that track.
     
  17. Wayne_j

    Wayne_j Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2006
    Messages:
    2,794
    Likes Received:
    1,302
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Real Name:
    Wayne
    Critical response probably isn't what Disney was expecting 63% with 43 reviews counted.
     
  18. Message #158 of 288 Jul 11, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2019
    Jake Lipson

    Jake Lipson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Messages:
    7,432
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Jake Lipson
    The reviews, even the ones who liked it, indicate that it is pretty much a beat-for-beat recreation of the original. By definition, that's not "fresh"; it's the same thing as before, only with a new coat of paint (CGI) instead of the previously hand-drawn animation. So that score really doesn't surprise me very much personally.

    But it won't matter. Hypothetically, even if every single person who loves the original goes to see this version one time and decides they don't like it, that's such a huge number of people that Disney would almost definitely make money. And it's likely to be much more liked by audiences than that hypothetical.
     
  19. Jason_V

    Jason_V Lead Actor

    Joined:
    May 7, 2001
    Messages:
    6,943
    Likes Received:
    2,049
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Bothell, WA
    Real Name:
    Jason
    Aladdin is sitting at a 57% right now. And has made $925 million worldwide.

    This score won't matter. At all.
     
    TravisR, dpippel and Jake Lipson like this.
  20. dpippel

    dpippel HTF Premium Member
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2000
    Messages:
    7,980
    Likes Received:
    4,680
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems
    Real Name:
    Doug
    Yep. Disney isn't interested in creativity here, just formula, and this formula film will make a bazillion dollars. They'll only stop churning out this crap if people stop going to the theater to see it.
     
    MatthewA, Tim Glover and Jake Lipson like this.

Share This Page

Movie information in first post provided by The Movie Database