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The Last Good Monster Movie?

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Johnny Angell, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. Johnny Angell

    Johnny Angell Played With Dinosaurs Member

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    Yes, I love the Mist. However at the end, Thomas Jane doesn't make me believe in his tragedy. He comes up short.
    Have to disagree with you on the '76 version. IMHO, it's terrible. It's Plan 9 from Outer Space with money bad. The acting is soooo bad and I don't believe in Kong like I do for the original or PJ's version.
     
  2. JohnRice

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    I'll just leave it with this. It's a lot of stinking fun. If you're going to take the movie seriously, then don't waste your time. It's just a fun movie. Half of the time I'm laughing at how extreme it is, and I burn a bunch of kilowatts when I watch it, shaking the foundation of the house. I've seen it probably three times total, so it's not like it's a common choice. I'm usually the drama snob who watches movies others find unbearably boring. This is my kind of action flick.
     
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    Let's test that bolded part.

    In the spoiler is a list of Monster and Giant Monster movies from Wikipedia (who says they're in no way "definitive" due to the changing nature of such lists. There are several that aren't "monster" movies but have a monster in them [Galaxy Quest for one]). ~185 titles from 1960 to now (and a few of these are still in development). I'd struggle to come up with 5 I'd consider "great" although there are a few more I'd call "good" and a few more that are just plain "cheesy fun" but not that good. Oddly, they don't include Carpenter's The Thing, which *is* one of the better monster movies made since 1959 as well as being one of a small handful of SF/Horror movie remakes worth watching.
    90210 Shark Attack
    A Quiet Place
    Achoura
    Alien
    Alien 3
    Alien Outpost
    Alien Resurrection
    Aliens
    All Monsters Attack
    Alligator
    Always Zoku Sanchōme no Yūhi
    Anacondas: The Hunt for the Blood Orchid
    Andhera
    Animal
    Avenged
    Backcountry
    Bait 3D
    Beauty and the Beast
    Big Ass Spider!
    Bigfoot: The Movie
    Blood of the Tribades
    Blood Ransom
    Blood Redd
    Cat's Eye
    Charles Bronson vs. The Golem
    Clash of the Titans
    Cloverfield
    Cold Ground
    Colossal
    Creature Feature
    Critters
    Crying Wolf 3D
    Cub
    Cute Little Buggers 3D
    Daimajin
    Darker Than the Night
    Darkness
    Dead Meat
    Destroy All Monsters
    Digging up the Morrow
    Doom
    Dreadtime Stories
    Eight Legged Freaks
    Event Horizon
    Exists
    Extinction
    Frankenstein Created Bikers
    From the Dark
    Frostbiter: Wrath of the Wendigo
    Galaxy Quest
    Gamera
    Gamera 2: Attack of Legion
    Gamera vs. Barugon
    Gamera vs. Guiron
    Gamera vs. Gyaos
    Gamera vs. Jiger
    Gamera vs. Viras
    Gamera vs. Zigra
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    Gehenna
    Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster
    Ghostbusters
    Ghoul
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    Godzilla 2000
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    Godzilla vs. Destoroyah
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    It Came From the Desert
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    Jack Frost
    Jack the Giant Slayer
    Jinn
    Jurassic City
    Jurassic World
    Khooni Panja
    King Kong vs. Godzilla
    Kong: Skull Island
    Lake Effect
    Lake Placid vs. Anaconda
    Love in the Time of Monsters
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    Mega Shark Versus Mecha Shark
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    The Fiancé
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    The Host
    The Leviathan
    The Meg
    The Mist
    The Monster Club
    The Night Watchmen
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    The Predator
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  4. JohnRice

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    LOL. So, the argument is backed up with a list of monster movies that doesn't include The Thing, but does include Sexcula. There's this thing called "confirmation bias".

    The claim that there have been no good monster movies since the '50s simply isn't realistic.

    There's no doubt that monster movies have generally changed since the '50s.

    Let's just move on. Nothing productive can come of this. Anyway, I plan to drop it.
     
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  5. Johnny Angell

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    I wasn’t commenting on the movie, but your type of praise for it. I haven’t seen it and might like it if I did.
     
  6. Johnny Angell

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    You’re right, it’s credibility is diminished by that omission. How can The Thing from JC not be there? The list also has movies with remakes and doesn’t specify which one.

    Despite that, I do believe we can discuss and disagree whether a movie is great or not.
     
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    Carpenter’s The Thing is a fabulous horror/monster film- I don’t have many horror films in my collection, but I’m proud to have
    this one.

    Odd that nobody has mentioned Predator. I think this should be ranked pretty high in this category.
     
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    Predator is definitely one of the better ones.
     
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    Absolutely. But... when an entire 60 year span is disregarded in it's entirety, I have to take exception.
     
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    This is just a little aside from this thread. Immediately blow the composition box I’m typing in, is a row of t-shirts for sale. There are two that are side by side that I find amusing and ironic, considering the forum rules. One shirts praises a certain savior precious to many, and the other is a definition of atheism. That’s it, all I’m gonna say. I’m not discussing religion just the content of two shirts that made me chuckle.

    Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
     
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    I put it in the great category. It brought a different type of monster to the table and did it fabulously.
     
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    Concerning our previous discussion of 2012, I think we are similar. I watch movies multiple times because either they are very good movies and I enjoy them or because I enjoy them. 2012 is in the second category for you?
     
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    Yeah, it's just fun.

    I also have another category of movies that are exceptional filmmaking, acting, writing, etc, but can hardly be described as "enjoyable". Sometimes I actually ask myself, out loud, "Why do I watch these movies?"
     
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    Aliens (1986)

    Every monster movie since then has been either forgettable, or no need to revisit...ever. Life is too short...just the good stuff for me.
     
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    So in your opinion, no good monster movies for 33 years. Interesting.... One of my favorites since Aliens is "Tremors". A fun little film.
     
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    One just occurred to me, a movie that I absolutely love. It has a monster (It's right in the title) but it's definitely a different concept of monster.

    A Monster Calls.
     
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    Hey... I didn't make those lists, just found them. I actually found them quite humorous in their omissions. If you follow the links you can see which year the remakes are from - I didn't include that due to the way Wikipedia formats those lists. I also tried an advance search at IMDB which is full of non-monster movies and/or questionable entries. It's quite difficult to find a list of "monster" movies due to what many people consider to be a "monster."

    Still... I stand by my original statement.
    I didn't say "no good monster movies" but "haven't been many" and, frankly, many of those in the 50s and before weren't all that good. In spite of that my top favorites mostly pre-date 1960.

    That's going strictly by Johnny's original statement that the *monster* is the star and the monster is non-human (which leaves out vampires, werewolves, chemical transformations, and more). I'm a hard critic of SF/Horror monster movies. It's rare a filmmaker gets it right and delivers a truly "good" product. I doubt I'd come up with more than 15 in the history of film that IMHO fit that description and are "good." There are lots and lots of monster movies that are "fun" but not really "good." Many films I truly love fit the description of being "fun" but not necessarily "good." In the end, it's all a matter of personal taste.
     
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    I’d say Cloverfield I love that movie.
    Great sound. Great marketing.

    I know a lot of people love Tremors but it bored the life out of me.
     
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    I was quite surprised at how good and fun Tremors is. When I first saw it I was ready to write it off solely based on the actors involved. I was wrong... very wrong. While the first is the best, the entire franchise is quite fun.
     
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    I don't think it completely fits the 'monster' category, but in terms of horror / suspense films I would mention It Follows.

    Haven't seen much followup on John's mention of A Quiet Place but it would fit the criteria and was really well done.

    - Walter.
     

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