The Hobbit (merged thread)

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  1. Claire Panke

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    Hi John, nice to see a fellow inmate here...(Harmonia at AA)

    Agree with you 100% about PJ - I was a Jackson fan long before LOTR, and a LOTR fan long before that.

    How did PJ tap into my imagination? It was thrilling to see ME come to life. The FOTR is one of the most stunning (and stunningly faithful) screen adaptions in movie history.

    Not to take anything away from Tolkien himself, after all it's Tolkien's genius the film celebrates, but think of the damage that might have been wreaked upon ME had some one like James Cameron directed (or Michael Bay).

    Richard Taylor is saying PJ's not doing The Hobbitt, and whither goes PJ, there follows WETA. I cannot imagine a version of The Hobbitt without the involvement of WETA and PJ. Don't want to either.
     
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    I'd have to agree that with the amount of money LOTR has made so far A hobbit movie is a sure bet. I agree it'd be very hard to replace the actors, but I have a feeling that New Line would throw so much money at the actors that they couldn't turn it down. In the mean time I guess we are stuck with the Animated version folk tunes And all.

    "The greatest adventure is what lies ahead"
     
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    I LOVED Ian McKellan's portrayal of Gandalf the Grey. I'm pretty sure I'll love his Gandalf the White too, but he will no doubt be playing him a bit different in the next two films. Since with the LOTR we are getting one film with McKellan's Gandalf the Grey and two films with his Gandalf the White, it would be nice to have another film with his Gandalf the Grey. Just to balance it out. [​IMG]
     
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  10. Qui-Gon John

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    I think a live action version of THE HOBBITT is something that they should definitely do.
     
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  12. BryanZ

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    Well, getting in on the discussion, be it either early or late, there are very few things that we can change.

    First, the setting. PJ and company found the perfect spot for ME. Any live action Hobbit must be filmed there.

    Second, PJ and WETA would have to be involved. PJ could be used as a consultant/assistant director but WETA has all of the effects plus other equipment used in LOTR. They would be there for consistency.

    Third, Ian McKellan is the perfect choice to play Gandalf as he nailed the role. Ian Holm nailed Bilbo as well. Those two may reprise their roles and John Davis-Rhymes and Hugo Weaving could too. However, for the most part the various parts can be played by different actors. The roles of Gandalf, Bilbo, and Gollum (Andy Serkis) should be set in stone.

    The question then becomes what you do with the role of the Narrator, etc. How do you cut out the vast majority of the songs? Is it indeed possible the cartoon version of The Hobbit was the best way to portray it or should that one be used as the standard? Better still, should The Hobbit be entirely done in CGI with some live scenery, such as was done in the opening scene of Dinosaur?

    The Hobbit does have an entirely different feel to it. The cartoon version got it right. If anything what should be done is a CGI version intermixed with live scenery and the story should be remain the same. It could be shown in theaters or go direct to DVD. In either case, it needs to be done right for Tolkien fans will not settle for anything less than just shy of perfection.
     
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    If The Hobbit does get made it should include some of the things that the book hinted at but did not depict, or things described in the appendices of LOTR as happening concurrently with the events in The Hobbit. Things like Gandalf infiltrating the dungeons of The Necromancer, or The White Council attacking Dol Guldor (a good opportunity for cameos by Cate Blanchett, Christopher Lee [God willing], and Hugo Weaving). Who wouldn't want to see Gandalf and Saruman when they were on the same side? I'm guessing that Beorn would join Tom Bombadil on the cutting room floor. [​IMG]
     
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    I read an interview with PJ not long ago(cant remember where yet) and they asked what would be your plans for the future and any chance of doing the hobbit? He said he wanted a fair break and to do something on low budget and on weekends!...he said that after it is all finished he wouldnt mind having a look at doing The Hobbit, but he said that he would much rather sit down and watch someone else do it. He mentioned how because he is so close to LOTR he doesnt really get a chance to sit and enjoy it like we do.

    Fair enough!
     
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    I agree that the tone of The Hobbit is quite different than LOTR. Everyone knows that The Hobbit was intended as more or less a children's tale. And as such, I would like to see a kind of light-hearted film with maybe a PG or PG13 rating, and have the feel be akin to something like 'The Mummy' or 'Men in Black'.

    As far as directors go, I think Rob Reiner or Robert Zemeckis would fit the bill nicely. Their styles aren't over the top, and it should please a wide audience.

    I suppose there are purists out there who would scoff at one taking The Hobbit so lightly, but I've actually never been compelled to see it made into a film like I have LOTR.
     
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    How about Michael Bay directing with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck as Bilbo and Gandalf.

    Summer blockbuster nightmare.
     
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  20. Ricardo C

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    If Peter Jackson would like to watch someone else do it, why not Alejandro Amenábar (Abre los Ojos, The Others)? Just a hunch [​IMG]
    As for the cast:
    Gandalf: Ian McKellen.
    Bilbo: Ian Holm. I always pictured the younger Bilbo as being older than 50, so I'd be ok with his look.
    Thranduil: Jude Law.
    Thorin: Sean Connery.
    Glóin: John Rhys Davies, playing his own daddy [​IMG]
     

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