The High and the Mighty

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  1. Drew Salzan

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    Any news yet on the progress of the restoration? This is a title that I'm eager to get. Can't wait to hear the great Tiompkin score in 5.1.
     
  2. Peter Kline

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    Hopefully, the score will be not in 5.1 but in 3 channel along the front of the soundfield as it was meant to be. There should be no surround sound imaging of the music. Ugh.....
     
  3. Drew Salzan

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    Quote: Hopefully, the score will be not in 5.1 but in 3 channel along the front of the sound field as it was meant to be. There should be no surround sound imaging of the music. Ugh.....

    I don't believe this is true. CineamaScope's sound design was 4 tracks; left, center, right and mono surround. Often the the surround track was used for ambience of the music for dramatic effect. [​IMG]
     
  4. Roger Rollins

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    Inside scoop is that Paramount has obtained the rights to THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY and the other Batjac pictures (ISLAND IN THE SKY, etc.) from the Wayne estate, although no formal announcement has been made yet. Expect a DVD release shortly....
     
  5. Gordon McMurphy

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    As long as comes out on DVD with a good transfer and good sound, another circle will be complete for me. This movie has been a home movie holy grail for many people.
     
  6. John Whittle

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    You might want to revisit the original Cinemascope Specs (I think Marty has them at the Widescreen Museum free for the browsing).

    The four track mag stripe prints had a narrow stripe that was used for the "surround" track and it was "switched" so that the speakers were only on when needed. The signal to noise ratio of the surround stripe was down considerably from the other tracks which is one reason it was switched with a 15 kilocycle tone (that was before everything changed to "hertz").

    "High and the Mighty" was made during this period and as I recall shot on early Eastmancolor and developed at the (then) soon to close Warnercolor Lab. There have long been rumors of problems with the negative but until it's inspected and printed those are just that rumors.

    What you hear today on DVD is not necessarily what was heard in the theatre in 1954, so when someone can actually play the four track print master and verify that there is music on the surround stripe, I'll remain skeptical.

    John
     
  7. Peter Kline

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    I don't believe there was any music on the 4th track as you postulate. It was used for sound effects when needed. A poor-man's Cinerama effect.
     
  8. Peter M Fitzgerald

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    Wow! Does that potentially mean a nice DVD edition of SEVEN MEN FROM NOW (1956) from Paramount, as well?
     
  9. Joe Caps

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    Paramount did indeed get High and the Mighty. Don't know about dvd yet, as the Wayne estate wants to do a theatrical release of High and Mighty.
     
  10. Drew Salzan

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    A theatrical release? That would be real cool. It remains to be seen how the crappy Warnercolor will look.
     
  11. Nick Eden

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    Excellent news that we can finally get to enjoy High and The Mighty again after such a long time! Does anyone know the real reason behind the film's withdrawal? The last time I saw it was on BBC TV here in Britain around about 1977/78 and it hasn't been seen since. Soon after this of course John Wayne died and control passed to one son or all of his children? However, my understanding is that Wayne was proud of this film and it seems strange that his fans should have been denied access to it for such a long time.
    Also, I was unaware that there were other films unavailable and it is very good news that these will also be available again. Does anyone have a complete list of the missing titles now acquired by Paramount?
     
  12. Nick Eden

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    Excellent news that we can finally get to enjoy High and The Mighty again after such a long time! Does anyone know the real reason behind the film's withdrawal? The last time I saw it was on BBC TV here in Britain around about 1977/78 and it hasn't been seen since. Soon after this of course John Wayne died and control passed to one son or all of his children? However, my understanding is that Wayne was proud of this film and it seems strange that his fans should have been denied access to it for such a long time.
    Also, I was unaware that there were other films unavailable and it is very good news that these will also be available again. Does anyone have a complete list of the missing titles now acquired by Paramount?
     
  13. obscurelabel

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    For what it's worth, here is a listing of the films that John Wayne's company produced, including those with a Batjac credit, that I cribbed from this site:

    http://www.jwaynefan.com/producer.html

    along with my own quick additions as to genre, availability on home video, and a couple of miscellaneous notes. This list is the result of a couple of quick minutes on IMDB and is in no way meant to be definitive. I originally posted this, in slightly different form, on another site's forum.

    Angel and the Badman (1947) (Western) (DVD) (probably public domain)
    The Fighting Kentuckian (1949) (Western) (DVD)
    Bullfighter and the Lady (1951) (Drama) (VHS only)
    Big Jim McLain (1952) (Drama) (VHS only)
    Plunder of the Sun (1953) (Action/Adventure) (no Video)
    Hondo (1953) (Western) (VHS only)
    Island in the Sky (1953)(Adventure/Drama) (no Video)
    Ring of Fear (1954) (Adventure/Mystery) (no Video)
    Track of the Cat (1954) (Western) (VHS only)
    The High and the Mighty (1954) (Adventure/Drama) (no video - announced?)
    Blood Alley (1955) (Adventure) (VHS only)
    Goodbye, My Lady (1956) (Drama) (VHS only)
    Seven Men From Now (1956) (Western) (no Video)
    Man in the Vault (1956) (Crime/Drama) (no Video)
    Gun the Man Down (1956) (Western) (No Video)
    Legend of the Lost (1957) (Adventure) (DVD)
    China Doll (1958) (Drama/War/Romance) (no Video)
    Escort West (1959) (Western) (VHS only)
    The Alamo (1960) (Action/Adventure/War) (DVD)
    McLintock! (1963) (Western/Comedy) (DVD) (public domain)

    [McLintock! is in the public domain due to the Wayne estate's failure to properly renew its copyright. A VHS P&S tape is was issued, and may still be in print, that is authorized by the Wayne estate. Several DVDs from poor quality source material are available, which should have to replace some or all of the music, which is held under separate copyright by the Wayne estate. As far as I know there is not a DVD available that is sourced from the film elements held by the Wayne estate.]

    The War Wagon (1967) (Action/Western) (DVD)
    Hondo and the Apaches (1967) (two TV episodes) (Western) (VHS only)
    The Green Berets (1968) (Action/War) (DVD)
    Chisum (1970) (Western) (DVD)
    Big Jake (1971) (Western) (DVD)
    The Train Robbers (1973) (Western) (VHS only)
    Cahill, U.S. Marshal (1973) (Western) (DVD)
    McQ (1974) (Crime/Drama) (VHS only)

    A number of these were co-productions that are not owned outright by the Wayne estate, for example The Alamo which was originally United Artists and is now controlled by MGM. Hondo I'm pretty sure is owned outright by the estate, and is available on VHS, but not DVD ... the titles listed on DVD (excection: McLintock!) are almost certaily co-productions.
     
  14. obscurelabel

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    For what it's worth, here is a listing of the films that John Wayne's company produced, including those with a Batjac credit, that I cribbed from this site:

    http://www.jwaynefan.com/producer.html

    along with my own quick additions as to genre, availability on home video, and a couple of miscellaneous notes. This list is the result of a couple of quick minutes on IMDB and is in no way meant to be definitive. I originally posted this, in slightly different form, on another site's forum.

    Angel and the Badman (1947) (Western) (DVD) (probably public domain)
    The Fighting Kentuckian (1949) (Western) (DVD)
    Bullfighter and the Lady (1951) (Drama) (VHS only)
    Big Jim McLain (1952) (Drama) (VHS only)
    Plunder of the Sun (1953) (Action/Adventure) (no Video)
    Hondo (1953) (Western) (VHS only)
    Island in the Sky (1953)(Adventure/Drama) (no Video)
    Ring of Fear (1954) (Adventure/Mystery) (no Video)
    Track of the Cat (1954) (Western) (VHS only)
    The High and the Mighty (1954) (Adventure/Drama) (no video - announced?)
    Blood Alley (1955) (Adventure) (VHS only)
    Goodbye, My Lady (1956) (Drama) (VHS only)
    Seven Men From Now (1956) (Western) (no Video)
    Man in the Vault (1956) (Crime/Drama) (no Video)
    Gun the Man Down (1956) (Western) (No Video)
    Legend of the Lost (1957) (Adventure) (DVD)
    China Doll (1958) (Drama/War/Romance) (no Video)
    Escort West (1959) (Western) (VHS only)
    The Alamo (1960) (Action/Adventure/War) (DVD)
    McLintock! (1963) (Western/Comedy) (DVD) (public domain)

    [McLintock! is in the public domain due to the Wayne estate's failure to properly renew its copyright. A VHS P&S tape is was issued, and may still be in print, that is authorized by the Wayne estate. Several DVDs from poor quality source material are available, which should have to replace some or all of the music, which is held under separate copyright by the Wayne estate. As far as I know there is not a DVD available that is sourced from the film elements held by the Wayne estate.]

    The War Wagon (1967) (Action/Western) (DVD)
    Hondo and the Apaches (1967) (two TV episodes) (Western) (VHS only)
    The Green Berets (1968) (Action/War) (DVD)
    Chisum (1970) (Western) (DVD)
    Big Jake (1971) (Western) (DVD)
    The Train Robbers (1973) (Western) (VHS only)
    Cahill, U.S. Marshal (1973) (Western) (DVD)
    McQ (1974) (Crime/Drama) (VHS only)

    A number of these were co-productions that are not owned outright by the Wayne estate, for example The Alamo which was originally United Artists and is now controlled by MGM. Hondo I'm pretty sure is owned outright by the estate, and is available on VHS, but not DVD ... the titles listed on DVD (excection: McLintock!) are almost certaily co-productions.
     
  15. oscar_merkx

    oscar_merkx Lead Actor

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    wow great news and thanks for coming up with that list

    Let's hope that it is a worldwide theatrical release before the dvd will come out

    [​IMG]
     
  16. oscar_merkx

    oscar_merkx Lead Actor

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    wow great news and thanks for coming up with that list

    Let's hope that it is a worldwide theatrical release before the dvd will come out

    [​IMG]
     
  17. RolandL

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    Anything new on the release of The High and Mighty?
     

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