The first cut is the deepest, article about is new director cuts like Amadeus

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  1. oscar_merkx

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    http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/...757634,00.html
    More about Amadeus: Director's Cut
    The first cut is the deepest
    Amadeus is the latest film to be reissued in the director's original edit. David Thomson asks: are we seeing a purer form of movie - or just being exploited?
    a very good question indeed !
     
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    I'm one of those people who see validity in the director's decision to modify a film, but on the other hand, I see validity in people's complaints that an original version of a film should be kept in tact.

    Honestly, this is one thing I dont get worked up too much over. If I like a movie, I'll still like it, even if it has additional footage in it. I will have no problem replacing my original theatrical "flipper" Amadeus with the new SE.
     
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    I also don't have a problem when a director revisits a film, unless he makes some crazy changes and takes the original version out of public access(wonder who that could be?).
    In the case of Amadeus, I suspect I'll like the longer version just fine. If I don't, I still have my Pioneer laserdisc.
    As long as Mozart doesn't shoot first... [​IMG]
     
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    With the exception of what Lucas did to Star Wars(which I personally dont think qualifies as a Dir Cut) and Coppolas Apocalypse Now Redux, Ive been in favor of most Directors Cuts Ive seen.

    Off the top of my head,heres a few where I prefer the Dir Cut: Blade Runner, Dances With Wolves,True Romance,Robocop,Nixon,Re-Animator,Almost Famous,Natural Born Killers, etc etc

    My dream was to see a Directors Cut of A Clockwork Orange
     
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    Don't forget about Gilliam's Brazil or Besson's La Grande Blue or Nikita
    [​IMG]
     
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    But was Amadeus revisited? I thought this re-issue was of the original cut, which was shortened before release to theatres, much like the "new" version of Cinema Paradiso.
     
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    In general I don't mind Director's Cuts as long as I have the option of watching the original cut. Unfortunantly in the case of Lucas and some others, directors seem to pretend that an original cut never existed.
     
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    I personally enjoy directors cuts, but I always want the original to be available. Then I can choose which I want to watch.

    I personally have never seen "Almost Famous" in it's theatrical cut. But I have it sitting there should I ever decided to.
     
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    As long as the original remains available, what's the big deal? Who forces anybody to buy the director's cut, or rent it, or watch it for free on television?

    I'd kill to get a director's cut of Lady from Shanghai. Unfortunately, it can't happen.
     
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    If a director says the film is the way I intended to release it and has no intention of adding more footage for DVD, does that make theatrical cut, also the director's cut? Or is a directors cut a version that is ALWAYS different from the theatrical?
    Just curious, don't mean to split hairs...
    [​IMG]
     
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    Lyle, you're correct, of course, about Eyes Wide Shut. I should have remembered that one.
     
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    JonZ, I've heard that Nixon: director's cut has some horrible video, and that the aspect ratio CHANGES throughout the course of the movie. Is this true? Can anyone else comment on this?
     
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    While I'm at it, I may as well ask how the video on the original amadeus disc is. How is it? Is it great? Is it horrible?
     
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    I'm with Matt Stone on this one. The original cut is just that...the original cut. And the director's final cut before the theatrical release. I would like to go back with my pc mouse and fix/correct/ my earlier mistakes in life. And enhance the good moments. Directors can give us any incarnation they want as long as we get the theatrical original cut as well. Most of us movie zealots will buy all the versions if we really like the film. I think I own every version known to mankind of Star Wars. And honestly there aren't many...in fact very few director's cuts I prefer over the original.
     
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    I missed out on Terminator 2 at the theater and saw the special edition first. I think it is the superior version. I can't imagine losing the "CPU smash" scene now.

    The Ultimate edition is another matter. I don't think adding the alternate ending really works. But, it's cool that it's an option.
     
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    With James Cameron, the extended cut is ALWAYS a superior film
     
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