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Discussion in 'Movies' started by oscar_merkx, May 22, 2008.
"Avengers movie, which follows six weeks later" Someone over there can't count, since May 6 - July 1 is eight weeks. Of course, Marvel is bad at counting time. They celebrated the fifth anniversary of their Marvel Knights imprint (that started in 1998) in 2004.
While I am pleased to hear that Captain American will be a WWII period piece, I find the title stupid, marketing-synergy be damned.
Worst title EVER. I'm hoping they can pull this off. I've been dreaming up a WWII era Cap flick for the longest time. So I'm praying they can handle this very well. I want an epic filled with emotion, gravitas, all that junk. I want to be brought to tears during the eventual scene where Cap gives his life for his country (which'll probably end up with him on ice, but y'know...). For some reason, the way I'm dreaming it up, I'd like to see a nice montage of America's reaction to having Cap fighting overseas with the boys - the good ol' propaganda machine. I want to see a scene where a soldier shows Cap a comic book featuring Cap as its hero, with that cover of him throwing a punch at Hitler. This could so easily end up as a by-the-numbers action flick set during the war. I just hope whoever they get to do this remembers to put some heart into it.
I'd like them to do both- start it as a period piece and then move to modern day a bit into the film- Cap's reaction to the America of today should be some pretty fertile ground.
We all thought Batman Begins was a pretty lame title, and look how that turned out. I'm glad to hear Cap is WWII completely. Then, revive him in Avengers (especially since it's only going to be coming out two months later), and show his issues adjusting to society in that movie and the Cap sequel. Obviously, this "man out of time" motif hasn't been around for his entire history, so why should every movie show that? If they incorporate many elements from Ed Brubaker's current run, they can have a great movie. Bucky: "Cap having fun?" Cap: "I have fun. Remember when I punched Hitler?" Bucky: "Yeah." Cap: "That was fun." Then, Cap 2 or 3 should include the Winter Soldier plot.
While it's cool to see they have a masterplan incorporating multiple properties, there is a cause for concern. With such tight orchestration of the release dates their first priority in all this is to make the release date. Making a great or even good movie is going to be secondary to that. I'm not saying they'll set out to make bad movies, just that issues of quality (with the stories and production) will take a backseat because there will be not only associated movies here, but huge marketing tie-in campaigns that are going to be tightly orchestrated too. to me that's not an insurmountable challange- I would easily accept lower production values for more interesting and imaginative stories. Economy and efficency is not anathema to great movie-making (as Raiders well illustrates). just something to keep in mind. I hope these all turn out great, but it's going to a huge headache for some people keeping all these plates on the poles and spinning.
And it's all three years down the road. And release dates aren't completely set in stone so far in advance. Plus, I'm sure the movie division is much more conscious of release dates than their comic counterparts.
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Know what would be great? Have the world war 2 movie, then after the credits, have him floating in the ice and have Iron Mans arm reach out to recover it. Perfect lead in to an AVENGERS movie. I'm available for hire Marvel, just email me....
Joe Johnston is set to direct. Not a bad choice at all, IMO. He proved that he could do superhero period pieces when he made The Rocketeer. Joe Johnston To Direct CAPTAIN AMERICA!!! -- Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news.
I always liked Jumanji and Jurassic Park III. I am curious about his remake of The Wolf Man. That one could turn out to be really good. But overall, he's a good choice, I think (better than the rumored McG for Wonder Woman). By the way, is Matthew Vaughn attached to any of the Marvel adaptations, at the moment? I thought he was going to direct Ant-Man, but I'm not sure.
Depends - do you count Kick-Ass as Marvel? Vaughn was never on Ant Man - that's been Edgar Wright for as long as it's been kicking around - but he was on Thor and X-Men 3 at points. Very glad to see Johnston with the job; he's just about ideal.
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Also, the rumor going around is that part of Monday's big release of Captain America #600 will be some casting information. Supposedly, Marvel's doing a Monday release (comics regularly come out on Wednesdays) because there's news coverage timed to coincide with it, possibly something bigger than what's happening in the comics. They've done a pretty good job of keeping that under wraps - there's indications that original Cap Steve Rogers is coming back, or the teen-girl Bucky from "Heroes Reborn" is going to appear, but neither of those seem big enough to make the wider world sit up and take notice. The crazy, but big enough, rumor is that Marvel is going to revisit the themes of Robert Morales & Kyle Baker's Truth: Red, White, and Black, which posited that the Super-Soldier serum was tested on African-American soldiers before being given to Steve Rogers - both in comics and the upcoming movie, with someone like Will Smith cast in the lead. I kind of like the idea, but it would certainly be controversial - Johnston would have to make a damn good movie to get folks to accept it, although a lot of that resistance would probably vanish if Ed Brubaker spends the next year and a half making comics about Isiah Bradley that are as good as the ones he's made about Bucky Barnes.
I am getting really excited now
"The crazy, but big enough, rumor is that Marvel is going to revisit the themes of Robert Morales & Kyle Baker's Truth: Red, White, and Black, which posited that the Super-Soldier serum was tested on African-American soldiers before being given to Steve Rogers - both in comics and the upcoming movie, with someone like Will Smith cast in the lead."
no to which part?
I think Joe Johnston is a good choice for this movie. One thing I would hope they change: the title. Gotta get rid of that "First Avenger" stuff. I know it is supposed to tie in with the Avengers movie, but audiences are smarter than that. The "X-Men Origins" title on Wolverine last summer was too cumbersome, and made the movie seem more of a product than a movie.